HG101 2023 Game Finish Challenge
Jan 1, 2023 8:12:26 GMT -5
Post by dsparil on Jan 1, 2023 8:12:26 GMT -5
Welcome to the HG101 2023 Game Finish Challenge!
This is a friendly competition to encourage people to finish games that they have started. Posting your thoughts is encouraged as is discussion no matter how long or short. Consider including a rating too, but that's 100% optional. Make sure to read all of the rules. This might seem like a lot of rules, but most are an accumulation of changes and clarifications from previous years. Unusual situations will be taken on a case by case basis. I will very likely be posting frequently, but I will not be counting my postings for competitive purposes.
When determining rankings, the reference time is taken from the Main Story time on How Long to Beat, GameFAQs total playtime divided by two, non-speedrun play throughs on YouTube and the reported time in order of preference. Please see this post for more information.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. If you are unsure if a game truly counts as completed, ask first and someone will likely know the answer. Some narrative games have what are functionally mid-game credits for various reasons. A few examples include the Zero Escape series, Octopath Traveler, Lost Sphear and Bravely Second.
Rules are the same as last year. Any new ones or changes will be indicated with a — and italics.
Post Formatting
- The name of the game must be in bold and optionally in green. The platform must also be included.
- Please use the game’s English name even if it is not officially available in English.
- If the game is for a computer platform, use the operating system name e.g. DOS, if the platform can generally be considered a PC. Older systems such as the C64 or Apple II may simply use that instead.
- If the game is part of an official emulated release, please include both the original platform and the platform of play.
- Please include your playtime if it is readily available using the game or system's timer.
- Include whether this was a first time completion or a replay.
- If including multiple games, please put them in alphabetical order. If you are also including some thoughts, this text may break up the listing.
General Rules
- A game must be able to be completed. It must either have a win state such as an ending or a set of challenges such as scenarios. In most cases, getting to the credits is an obvious indication, but this is not always the case.
- In order to be counted, a game must have been completed in 2023 regardless of start date.
- A game may only be counted once per person. Multiple people may claim the same game.
- Any difficulty is acceptable as long as it does not leave out a significant amount of content.
- A game does not need to be 100% completed.
- Using an early “failure” ending e.g. the White ending in Shin Megami Tensei IV, does not count. However, “bad” endings do count if they end at roughly the same point as “normal” or “good” endings.
- Simultaneous co-op is always allowed. If a co-op mode uses separate turns, please play at least half the game.
- New Game Plus modes are acceptable as long as they are played to at least the normal ending. These are counted as replays.
- Posting a screenshot is encouraged but not required.
Cheating, Glitches, and Save States
- The use of cheat codes is not allowed.
- The exploitation of major glitches is not allowed.
- The use of save states in emulators is not allowed except to suspend the game to resume later.
- In general, please play the game as intended.
Ports/Remakes/Remasters
- Simple ports, remakes and remastered versions i.e. graphical updates do not count separately.
- Games with substantial changes over the original do count separately.
DLC and Expansions
- In order to count separately from the base game, DLC and expansions must be accessible either from the main menu or completely separately and not exclusively in-game.
- New content in rereleases, remakes and remasters may be counted separately if it fulfills the general requirements for DLC and expansions.
Hacks/Mods
- Bug fix and gameplay adding modifications are allowed, but please list any that are used.
- Simple mods do not count separately from the base game.
- Large scale modifications that function as a new game do count separately from the base game.
Looping Games
— Infinitely looping games that consist of a single screen with a fixed level layout e.g the original Pac-Man or a fixed enemy formation e.g. Space Invaders do not count.
— Infinitely looping games with a level progression regardless of length count.
— Fixed or infinitely looping games only require a single loop if difficulty and not content is the only differentiator.
Arcade and Arcade Style Games
- A maximum of 2 credits per stage may be used if the game allows for credit feeding i.e. you get revived exactly where you died after continuing. This does not mean that only 2 credits can be used total per stage. For example, a game with 7 stages has 14 credits available.
- Games that use checkpoints or restart the level do not have a credit limit.
Fighting Games
- A minimum of 8 characters must be used in arcade modes or the entire cast if less than 8.
- If multiple characters must be selected, only one character must differ between each play through.
- Dedicated single player story modes are also acceptable.
- Fighting game updates may count separately from the base game only if it was released as a new arcade cabinet or home release and was not available as or equivalent to downloadable updates. Different sets of 8 characters must be used for multiple updates to all count.
Open-Ended Sim/Civ Style Games
- As previously noted, there must be some type of victory condition or a set of scenarios.
- Games that simply continue on indefinitely may not be counted.
Shareware Games
- Episodes count as separate releases if they were available for purchase separately. It is possible that each episode will have a separate executable if this is the case but it is not guaranteed.
- All episodes must be played in order to be claimed even if they count separately.
- One small exception is the Commander Keen series as episodes 4 and 5 are a sequel to 1 to 3. In that case, both sets may be played independently. Keen Dreams and Aliens Ate My Babysitter may also be played independently.
Sports / Racing Games
- If there is a story or career mode, beating this is enough.
- If there is a tournament mode, completing the highest level is required.
- For a game like Mario Kart where the tracks are divided into “cups”, completion of all cups is required.
- Different top speed settings will be considered to be different difficulties e.g. MK CCs. Any speed may be used unless substantial content is only available on higher settings.
Visual Novels, Kinetic Novels and Interactive Movies
- Visual Novels must have branching paths at a minimum in order to be counted. Simulation elements or other types of gameplay are not required.
- Likewise interactive movies are acceptable.
- Visual Novels with no gameplay elements at all, Kinetic Novels, may not be counted.
This is a friendly competition to encourage people to finish games that they have started. Posting your thoughts is encouraged as is discussion no matter how long or short. Consider including a rating too, but that's 100% optional. Make sure to read all of the rules. This might seem like a lot of rules, but most are an accumulation of changes and clarifications from previous years. Unusual situations will be taken on a case by case basis. I will very likely be posting frequently, but I will not be counting my postings for competitive purposes.
When determining rankings, the reference time is taken from the Main Story time on How Long to Beat, GameFAQs total playtime divided by two, non-speedrun play throughs on YouTube and the reported time in order of preference. Please see this post for more information.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. If you are unsure if a game truly counts as completed, ask first and someone will likely know the answer. Some narrative games have what are functionally mid-game credits for various reasons. A few examples include the Zero Escape series, Octopath Traveler, Lost Sphear and Bravely Second.
Rules are the same as last year. Any new ones or changes will be indicated with a — and italics.
Post Formatting
- The name of the game must be in bold and optionally in green. The platform must also be included.
- Please use the game’s English name even if it is not officially available in English.
- If the game is for a computer platform, use the operating system name e.g. DOS, if the platform can generally be considered a PC. Older systems such as the C64 or Apple II may simply use that instead.
- If the game is part of an official emulated release, please include both the original platform and the platform of play.
- Please include your playtime if it is readily available using the game or system's timer.
- Include whether this was a first time completion or a replay.
- If including multiple games, please put them in alphabetical order. If you are also including some thoughts, this text may break up the listing.
General Rules
- A game must be able to be completed. It must either have a win state such as an ending or a set of challenges such as scenarios. In most cases, getting to the credits is an obvious indication, but this is not always the case.
- In order to be counted, a game must have been completed in 2023 regardless of start date.
- A game may only be counted once per person. Multiple people may claim the same game.
- Any difficulty is acceptable as long as it does not leave out a significant amount of content.
- A game does not need to be 100% completed.
- Using an early “failure” ending e.g. the White ending in Shin Megami Tensei IV, does not count. However, “bad” endings do count if they end at roughly the same point as “normal” or “good” endings.
- Simultaneous co-op is always allowed. If a co-op mode uses separate turns, please play at least half the game.
- New Game Plus modes are acceptable as long as they are played to at least the normal ending. These are counted as replays.
- Posting a screenshot is encouraged but not required.
Cheating, Glitches, and Save States
- The use of cheat codes is not allowed.
- The exploitation of major glitches is not allowed.
- The use of save states in emulators is not allowed except to suspend the game to resume later.
- In general, please play the game as intended.
Ports/Remakes/Remasters
- Simple ports, remakes and remastered versions i.e. graphical updates do not count separately.
- Games with substantial changes over the original do count separately.
DLC and Expansions
- In order to count separately from the base game, DLC and expansions must be accessible either from the main menu or completely separately and not exclusively in-game.
- New content in rereleases, remakes and remasters may be counted separately if it fulfills the general requirements for DLC and expansions.
Hacks/Mods
- Bug fix and gameplay adding modifications are allowed, but please list any that are used.
- Simple mods do not count separately from the base game.
- Large scale modifications that function as a new game do count separately from the base game.
Looping Games
— Infinitely looping games that consist of a single screen with a fixed level layout e.g the original Pac-Man or a fixed enemy formation e.g. Space Invaders do not count.
— Infinitely looping games with a level progression regardless of length count.
— Fixed or infinitely looping games only require a single loop if difficulty and not content is the only differentiator.
Arcade and Arcade Style Games
- A maximum of 2 credits per stage may be used if the game allows for credit feeding i.e. you get revived exactly where you died after continuing. This does not mean that only 2 credits can be used total per stage. For example, a game with 7 stages has 14 credits available.
- Games that use checkpoints or restart the level do not have a credit limit.
Fighting Games
- A minimum of 8 characters must be used in arcade modes or the entire cast if less than 8.
- If multiple characters must be selected, only one character must differ between each play through.
- Dedicated single player story modes are also acceptable.
- Fighting game updates may count separately from the base game only if it was released as a new arcade cabinet or home release and was not available as or equivalent to downloadable updates. Different sets of 8 characters must be used for multiple updates to all count.
Open-Ended Sim/Civ Style Games
- As previously noted, there must be some type of victory condition or a set of scenarios.
- Games that simply continue on indefinitely may not be counted.
Shareware Games
- Episodes count as separate releases if they were available for purchase separately. It is possible that each episode will have a separate executable if this is the case but it is not guaranteed.
- All episodes must be played in order to be claimed even if they count separately.
- One small exception is the Commander Keen series as episodes 4 and 5 are a sequel to 1 to 3. In that case, both sets may be played independently. Keen Dreams and Aliens Ate My Babysitter may also be played independently.
Sports / Racing Games
- If there is a story or career mode, beating this is enough.
- If there is a tournament mode, completing the highest level is required.
- For a game like Mario Kart where the tracks are divided into “cups”, completion of all cups is required.
- Different top speed settings will be considered to be different difficulties e.g. MK CCs. Any speed may be used unless substantial content is only available on higher settings.
Visual Novels, Kinetic Novels and Interactive Movies
- Visual Novels must have branching paths at a minimum in order to be counted. Simulation elements or other types of gameplay are not required.
- Likewise interactive movies are acceptable.
- Visual Novels with no gameplay elements at all, Kinetic Novels, may not be counted.