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Post by jameseightbitstar on Jun 28, 2007 23:14:50 GMT -5
Yes, but you could say the same thing about just about anything bad. "If no one purchased U2 CDs, they would just go away." And if you ask me, U2 is a much worse problem than organized crime. A rock band you don't even have to listen to if you don't want to is worse than something that adversely affects your life whether you like it or not? You know what--you're officially Too Stupid To Be Worth Talking To. I'm going to have to read an Algebra textbook to regain the braincells I wasted on you. EDIT: And if the above was another one of your "jokes" that I missed... well, that's even worse, because some things simply should not be joked about. I think I also agree with vysethebold's stance on this whole topic. Good bye. |
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Post by Drawesome(Dale) on Jun 28, 2007 23:32:16 GMT -5
I once bought the whole series of Trigun in a boxset that turned out to be a bootleg. It was actually a very nice set and the quality was really good. All of the eps were on 4 discs as opposed to like 7 in the official release. They even had the English dub on them. However, as soon as I found out they were bootleg, I threw them out. I'm kinda picky when it comes to that kind of thing. I bought the official ones really cheap later on. I'm not trying to be a douche here but why throw out the DVD's? You already gave your money to the bootleggers why not watch them? All you had to do was make sure that no one else watches the DVD's so they won't enjoy them and feel inclined to buy some of their own. As good of a protest throwing them out was it doesn't really help much. Did you remember the seller? If you wanted too you could of informed others about the seller who have similar opinion's as you not to buy from them so they don't give money to them too and end up in your situation. That would hurt them(the bootleggers that is). |
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Post by Revolver Ocelot on Jun 30, 2007 1:42:17 GMT -5
Yes, but you could say the same thing about just about anything bad. "If no one purchased U2 CDs, they would just go away." And if you ask me, U2 is a much worse problem than organized crime. A rock band you don't even have to listen to if you don't want to is worse than something that adversely affects your life whether you like it or not? You know what--you're officially Too Stupid To Be Worth Talking To. I'm going to have to read an Algebra textbook to regain the braincells I wasted on you. EDIT: And if the above was another one of your "jokes" that I missed... well, that's even worse, because some things simply should not be joked about. I think I also agree with vysethebold's stance on this whole topic. Good bye. Funny how you're the one who got this whole ball rolling and now you're acting like you're so far above this debate.. despite the fact that you're the first one to resort to the least common denominator of name-calling. |
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Post by gesutaaru on Jun 30, 2007 7:12:58 GMT -5
Funny how you're the one who got this whole ball rolling and now you're acting like you're so far above this debate.. despite the fact that you're the first one to resort to the least common denominator of name-calling. I'm not so sure you should be riding the high and mighty train when your previous replies have included sarcasm and phrases like "shut the fuck up". He's presumably leaving the "debate" because of your unflappable confidence in the fact that you're right. Regardless of the proof or reasons he can muster, you'll attempt to come back with some half-assed attempt at humor that illustrates how little you care, at which point, why should he waste his time trying to make you a better person? One could ask the question, at this point, "Well, if that's the case, why did he bother to begin with?". In reply to that, I'd say, "Had he known you were going to be this belligerent from the get go, he wouldn't have bothered." |
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Post by Revolver Ocelot on Jun 30, 2007 22:25:55 GMT -5
I'm not so sure you should be riding the high and mighty train when your previous replies have included sarcasm and phrases like "shut the fuck up". He's presumably leaving the "debate" because of your unflappable confidence in the fact that you're right. Regardless of the proof or reasons he can muster, you'll attempt to come back with some half-assed attempt at humor that illustrates how little you care, at which point, why should he waste his time trying to make you a better person? Make me a better person? ... what? This is a topic about fucking bootleg anime, not a profound, Confucian lesson of morality. NOBODY should read this deeply into things like this. Nobody was ever made a better person by reading a message board topic. And where the hell did you come from, anyway? You're not even involved in this conversation, and you pop up and decide to be guest referee? You've done this in several of my other posts as well, and it's getting pretty obnoxious. Get off your high horse and off my dick, please. This was an informative topic to let people know how to spot bootlegs and if they may be good or not. It was strictly non-confrontational until jameseightbitstar showed up and started preaching and trying to make us all out to be assholes because we rip off poor, defenseless, multi-billion dollar coporations like Bandai. How am I at fault here? |
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Post by gesutaaru on Jun 30, 2007 23:08:42 GMT -5
Sorry for hurting your feelings. Are we cool now?
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Post by Revolver Ocelot on Jun 30, 2007 23:12:57 GMT -5
Sorry for hurting your feelings. Are we cool now? *sigh* ... I give up. |
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Post by Crusader on Jul 1, 2007 22:45:58 GMT -5
Not really. Aside from Wing, most Gundam stuff in the US was niche at best. SEED's ratings weren't up to snuff to the point where Cartoon Network didn't pick up SEED Destiny for broadcast and declared that they were "done with Gundam" or something like that. Thankfully they'll usually pick up the the current stuff (they just licensed MS IGLOO a few days ago) and I consider it a minor miracle that they localized Zeta (with a short-lived reprint of the big boxed set to boot) but it's not terribly optimistic for anything made prior to the turn of the century (especially since none of the currently-unlicensed series have quite the following that Zeta did).
I usually try to stick to a legit R1 release if the anime is licensed, though that may change with certain series since Bandai Visual's new policy is to up the price, lower the episode-per-disc ratio, and cut out other things (like dubs). It's a shame because I remember watching the first episode of Diebuster at a convention at school and loving it. Will I love it so much to plunk down $40 or so for TWO fucking episodes?
I'll try a bootleg if I'm reasonably sure it's fully featured (IE- a more-or-less exact replica of the legit R1) and the legit R1 is out of print. That's what I did when I (albeit unknowingly) bought bootlegs of Nadesico off of eBay. Everything was there...aside from maybe a few seconds of the final episode of the disc's "next episode" preview; big fucking deal.
For unlicensed stuff I usually just go with regular fansubs these days. The picture and sound quality on my computer are probably far superior to my 1991 Magnavox with mono output. As far as I understand it, most AVIs available via torrent these days are at least near DVD-quality anyway. Fuck, I downloaded rips of the Mobile Suit Gundam movie trilogy recently and the picture/sound was indistinguishable from any movie DVD I own legitimately.
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Post by Atma on Jul 2, 2007 2:55:31 GMT -5
Okay, I'm just gonna throw my two cents in here and be done. I'm not trying to pick anyone's scabs, but I have a few things that need to be said.
First of all, I've been learning Japanese for quite some time. Not only do I find it fun and challenging, it has actually come in use a lot of times beyond just sounding cool. If I reach fluency, I could make some fucking sweet cash being an interpreter or such. I can understand a lot more out of things that come from Japan now and it gives me a bit more appreciation for them. Just like how being American helps me appreciate some of the things we have here.
And as far as that 'girls r not teh impressed' comment, I personally think it's awesome when someone takes the time to learn another's language and help bridge cultural gaps. It shows intelligence.
I've also seen Yahoo Japan Auctions mentioned several times. There's a site out there called Rinkya that lets you sign up and bid on items with a translation tool. The only downside is really long waits to get your items, but me and several others I know have gotten tons of stuff off of the site that way and have never once had a problem with the whole system.
Okay, now on to actual bootlegs.
I own the complete Xenosaga The Animation on a two disc pirated set I found for $10. I was led to believe it was the first disc of the actual Japanese production, but it was the whole series crammed onto two discs in one case. The more I looked at it, the more I noticed how bad it was all done. I don't know the manufacturer's name off hand, but it was absolutely horrendous. It was one of those with Japanese/Chinese/Engrish subs. I had the whole show torrented for a while, but a huge drive crash in February caused me to lose a lot of stuff, and with the recent licensing of the show, I will not be re-downloading it. Instead, I will be waiting until September to get the first American disc. Some day, I also wish to import the Japanese originals. I now seek to dispose of these bootlegs. If someone wants them for some weird reason, they can have them for free. If not, it's trashcan time.
Why? Not because I feel morally obligated to. It's because if I enjoy something, I prefer my money goes to the companies and the creators themselves so they can have room and board and continue to create. Yes, I admit I have one omega fuck-ton of shit downloaded and sorted into various folders on my comp, but if I enjoy it, I always seek out a legit copy of it, if and when it comes to America/your place of residence. As someone who wishes to create works of her own someday, I hope others will think this way and purchase real copies of whatever I may produce. I don't mind if they download it to test it out, just if they like it, throw some pennies my way and my publisher's way.
But if you like bootlegs or burning fansubs endlessly to discs, be my guest. I'm not gonna tell you what to do with what you like. I won't tell you how to spend your money.
And if I offended anyone with my post, let it be said here and now I meant not to. My apologies in advance.
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Post by Revolver Ocelot on Jul 2, 2007 23:13:24 GMT -5
Heck, I'll take those Xenosaga bootlegs if you don't want them. Watching anime in really bad Engrish has become a favorite pastime of mine.
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