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Post by derboo on Jul 24, 2009 8:37:40 GMT -5
I thought the article list on the main page has been getting a bit too long, so I went and created two lists, putting the games into categories. Those are in HTML format, since they're mostly a big copy&paste job from the main page. First, divided by genre: www.derboo.de/files/genres.htmThen I made up a bunch of themed categories: www.derboo.de/files/themes.htmOK, so there's a few faults, especially with the latter one: - I didn't play all the games, I didn't even read all the articles, so sometimes I didn't know what I was doing, actually. - I made the categories up as I went, so theyre not very balanced, sometimes I just forgot about categories I've made, or they came to my mind late, so earlier games might have gone lost to the category. - I didn't bother to make themes like "Medieval Fantasy" or "Space", so a lot of genre pieces like RPGs, Shoot 'em Ups, or Fighting games are in no themed category. - But also some of the more unique games are affected, Aconcagua, Blaster Master, No One Can Stop Mr. Domino, Shadow Force, Silhouette Mirage and Lack of Love are still in need of a distinctive category, where more games other than themselves fit in. - I also couldn't quite find genre monickers for Elevator Action, Kagirinaki Tatakai, Panic!!, Lack of Love (that's right, Lack of Love is in none of the lists due to its sheer uniqueness) - Also, some categories are to be taken less seriously than others. - Sega Ages isn't incorporated, yet. By the way, I found two typos in the Natsume article: "Two of them weird swords, two of them wield guns, (...)" "Whenever you reach the end of a level, you hope in your giant robot" There was also an article where it said "solider" instead of "soldier", but I forgot to take down which one.  |
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Post by Ganelon on Jul 24, 2009 9:45:57 GMT -5
There was also an article where it said "solider" instead of "soldier", but I forgot to take down which one. Yeah, Siren. Anyway, that's actually a pretty good genre list you have there. Minigames though. Azure Dreams is also really an SRPG all around (sort of like Albert Odyssey) I'd definitely lump platformers and sidescrolling action together though because those 2 groupings look entirely arbitrary. You have plenty of platform games in the latter and some heavily shooting-based games in the former. |
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Post by zzz on Jul 24, 2009 9:54:11 GMT -5
If we're gonna divide the articles into groups, then how about just doing it alphabetically? Like A-M and N-Z or by letter. If you do it by genre then the more obscure neglected titles will end up being mostly ignored in favor of the more well know games and the RPGs, which kinda defeats the whole point of the site. Also, I just noticed the thread title. HGH101?  Human Growth Hormone 101 |
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Post by justjustin on Jul 24, 2009 12:21:05 GMT -5
Cool. The themes are fun to read. As for sorting by genre, I'd agree that would be the best for organizational purposes. The only issue is a lot of series/articles contain multiple genres in them so it can get tricky about where to put 'em.
What I've always wanted on this site is a list of the individual games, sorted in some way (genre, alphabetized, whatever). Often I'll think something like "Hey, I'm in the mood to find this kind of game..." and there's no way to do that when individual games are buried in an article. Also, I'll sometimes think of a name of a game and not be able to find it because it's hidden in an article somewhere and I can't remember the series it's in (or don't realize it's part of a particular series). I have to use google site search sometimes.
While it would take immense effort to organize it this way, it'd be super helpful in the long run. A person might have a name (or type of game) in their head, find it listed and be taken to the appropriate page in the article. Then they could read about the rest of the series if they wanted, and maybe find other games similar to it. I like the articles here a lot, but right now it feels like everything's closed off. The only choice is to sift through entire articles for pieces of information or finding certain games. Of course, this is no problem for people who read the articles as they come.
Now, these are just my sentiments. Definitely not complaining, I'm just thinking out loud about other sorting options after reading derboo's.
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Post by derboo on Jul 24, 2009 14:14:41 GMT -5
I'd definitely lump platformers and sidescrolling action together though because those 2 groupings look entirely arbitrary. You have plenty of platform games in the latter and some heavily shooting-based games in the former. I think that's partly because I don't know some games (very well), maybe partly because it's really unclear. I'd think it strange to mix together Mickey Mouse and Metal Slug, though. What I did a lot was putting games in multiple genres (like Flashback is in Platformers and Adventures. It would also probably fit under some Action category, but "Sidescroller" would be strange, because it has no scrolling). Cool. The themes are fun to read. As for sorting by genre, I'd agree that would be the best for organizational purposes. The only issue is a lot of series/articles contain multiple genres in them so it can get tricky about where to put 'em. I usually put them in multiple lists, as well (come to think of it, I forgot the Ebisumaru puzzle game, probably more). Some of the less homogenous company profiles, I actually broke up into their individual game titles. |
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Post by derboo on Jul 24, 2009 14:22:32 GMT -5
If we're gonna divide the articles into groups, then how about just doing it alphabetically? Like A-M and N-Z or by letter. If you do it by genre then the more obscure neglected titles will end up being mostly ignored in favor of the more well know games and the RPGs, which kinda defeats the whole point of the site. This is by no means intended to replace the main site. After all, the list isn't too long to scroll to any given letter yet (and probably not for the next few years, either). I just think with a longer list people become less and less likely to just browse it until they find a title they don't know and that catches their interest. These lists are to be seen as more of a brainstorm help, for titles that hold similarities to ones you like. Not without reason, some of the themes are inspired by threads we had in the past, searching for games with swing mechanics, disaster survival (not enough articles so far for a category, sadly), ninja action, etc. I'd also call the themes list more important, but I felt kinda obligued to make a genre one as well, as many games didn't end up in any themes (and I was going through every page, anyway). EDIT: Fixed the thread title. EDIT2: Btw., didn't this site use to have an article on Clock Tower? |
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Post by zzz on Jul 24, 2009 15:45:03 GMT -5
EDIT2: Btw., didn't this site use to have an article on Clock Tower? No. Though according to the head honchos around here, it's been one of the games that has always been considered ever since the site started. Someone was working on one recently, but I don't know how that's going to pan out. |
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Post by Ganelon on Jul 24, 2009 17:36:02 GMT -5
I think that's partly because I don't know some games (very well), maybe partly because it's really unclear. I'd think it strange to mix together Mickey Mouse and Metal Slug, though. What I did a lot was putting games in multiple genres (like Flashback is in Platformers and Adventures. It would also probably fit under some Action category, but "Sidescroller" would be strange, because it has no scrolling). I think they all go together. Mickey Mania only really differs from Metal Slug in that it's cutesy, you have HP, there are no vehicles, and you can alternatively jump on enemies to defeat them (sometimes, that's the only way). It's an incredibly arbitrary distinction when you get down to it though. I lump all such side-view action games in my personal collection as sidescrollers (even when it's sort of a misnomer as with Flashback). |
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Post by Discoalucard on Jul 24, 2009 20:10:41 GMT -5
This is awesome! I've been meaning to do this for a long time but never got around to it.
I wanted to do one by company, too. Maybe I'll get those together when I post those.
Amusing that you put "Leisure Suit Larry" under "be the villain". Larry's not a bad guy, I swear!
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Post by derboo on Jul 24, 2009 21:11:11 GMT -5
He turned evil when he sold out his nephew to star in shitty games.  |
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Post by Gilder on Jul 24, 2009 21:37:14 GMT -5
Splatterhouse under Kusoge  |
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Post by derboo on Jul 24, 2009 21:57:24 GMT -5
Haha, that's one of the categories that are not to be taken too seriously. It originally was "trashy games", but I changed it because Kusoge sounded funnier. I thought about putting God Hand there as well, just for kicks, but I feared I might not survive the backlash... |
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Post by Discoalucard on Jul 24, 2009 21:59:56 GMT -5
I once saw God Hand classified as a "bakage" (idiotic game) which is kinda similar, but less awful in quality.
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Post by kyouki on Jul 25, 2009 1:58:17 GMT -5
But all the games in your kusoge list are awful (possibly with the exception of Bubsy), and Splatterhouse is at least competent (or, in my opinion, a masterpiece).
I will never forgive you!!! if you don't remove it!
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Post by dire51 on Jul 25, 2009 2:30:53 GMT -5
Splatterhouse? Kusoge?
*eyes narrow*
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