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Post by ryochan on Apr 26, 2010 17:05:20 GMT -5
Those books sound rather fun, if only because they are either really well thought-out, or 100% giggle worthy. Either is fine, though I will wait to find them cheap >)
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Post by Jave on Apr 26, 2010 19:48:14 GMT -5
The best part about those books is when people scoff at some of them and not at others. Like Seinfeld and philosophy is just the biggest joke ever, but Pink Floyd and philosophy, now that's gonna be deep.
Mind you, if there's a Tetris and philosophy, I'd give it a cursory glance, even if I don't take it seriously.
edit...
I blame The Tao of Pooh for starting the trend - though that one's not half bad.
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Post by Catalyst on Apr 27, 2010 2:29:23 GMT -5
I read The Tao of Pooh. It was a good read. Not necessarily eye opening, but I did like the art.
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Post by Bobinator on Apr 27, 2010 11:43:59 GMT -5
So, yeah, let me make this simple and short: A friend I know online is joining the US military, and I couldn't convince him it's a horrifically bad idea at all. I don't know what exactly he's planning on doing there, but as far as I know, he'll be more or less fucked wherever he goes. Even if he lives, he'll be gone for 5 years and won't have internet, so I might as well treat him like he's dead if he actually leaves.
IF he survives, and I seriously doubt that'll happen, he'll more than likely be some kind of dead-eyed psychopath who won't know how to properly react to situations. If I've offended anyone, or I'm wrong, I apologize. Seen, I've never been in the military, have absolutely no want to, and honestly, from all the shit I hear about them ALL the time, I fear for anyone who joins them. I'm just assuming the worst possible thing that possibly COULD happen to him will, so there'll be less dissapointment if it does.
What do I do? How do I get him to realize what he's doing?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2010 13:34:25 GMT -5
Join AA and learn the credo. Please god, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for all of the members of our military. They made the choice to put their lives and happiness at risk for the sake of others. They also put themselves in the position of being a pawn used by politicians in pointless dick-measuring contests. The world needs people to fill those roles, and I know that I could never be one of the ones who does it.
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Post by Ike on Apr 27, 2010 13:38:38 GMT -5
So, yeah, let me make this simple and short: A friend I know online is joining the US military, and I couldn't convince him it's a horrifically bad idea at all. I don't know what exactly he's planning on doing there, but as far as I know, he'll be more or less fucked wherever he goes. Even if he lives, he'll be gone for 5 years and won't have internet, so I might as well treat him like he's dead if he actually leaves. IF he survives, and I seriously doubt that'll happen, he'll more than likely be some kind of dead-eyed psychopath who won't know how to properly react to situations. If I've offended anyone, or I'm wrong, I apologize. Seen, I've never been in the military, have absolutely no want to, and honestly, from all the shit I hear about them ALL the time, I fear for anyone who joins them. I'm just assuming the worst possible thing that possibly COULD happen to him will, so there'll be less dissapointment if it does. What do I do? How do I get him to realize what he's doing? Let him be an adult and make his own decisions. The best thing you can do is support him. You aren't his keeper, and losing sleep over it isn't going to make his decision any easier for you or him. Besides, not everybody who joins the military necessarily comes back a psycho fuckup. I've known some folk who say the military was the best thing to happen to them and saved them from a life of dead-ends. |
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Post by Snarboo on Apr 27, 2010 13:55:49 GMT -5
Of the many friends of mine who have joined the military, all of them have come back in one piece. A few of them did experience traumatic events, but otherwise they've come back fine. None of them have changed noticeably or become stone cold psychopaths, and I'd say they've come back better for it. They definitely had some interesting stories to tell.
I understand your concern, Bob, but the best thing you can do is support your friend as best as you can.
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Post by ryochan on Apr 27, 2010 19:20:23 GMT -5
My Dad was in the military, the Air Force to be precise. He visited places like Vietnam, so he isn't exactly unused to bad situations. Other than some quirks that I understand he had BEFORE he went into the military, he is fine.
The truth is, the military is just like going into anything else; there's risks and rewards. Worrying about your friend is normal, but trying to talk him out of it if he's sure is just likely to tear the friendship you have apart, and I would think that that friendship is very important (mine are to me). Let him know your concerns, talk about it, but understand he'll do what he feels right, and support that, regardless of what it is. You and he will both be better men for it.
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Post by Smithee of Zur-En-Arrh on Apr 27, 2010 19:57:44 GMT -5
Joining the military is a lot like becoming a professional wrestler, y'know?
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Post by Ike on Apr 27, 2010 20:06:35 GMT -5
Joining the military is a lot like becoming a professional wrestler, y'know? it actually isn't |
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Post by Smithee of Zur-En-Arrh on Apr 27, 2010 20:13:11 GMT -5
It actually is. Because as a wrestler you can get hurt or killed right? But you know you're doing it and you enjoy doing it. So it is like that, y'know?
Like, you go in knowing you could die or be injured, but you want to do it because it is something you want to do even though you could die or be hurt or be injured. Or be injured or be hurt or die.
Y'know?
Becoming a professional wrestler is a lot like joining the military, y'know? And vice versa, y'know?
(I'm not actually being a dick, just being a dick as a joke, y'know?)
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Post by Ike on Apr 27, 2010 20:17:11 GMT -5
It actually is. Because as a wrestler you can get hurt or killed right? drug overdose doesn't count no no not at all |
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Post by Smithee of Zur-En-Arrh on Apr 27, 2010 20:24:20 GMT -5
Misawa died.
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Post by Jave on Apr 27, 2010 20:26:55 GMT -5
Didn't Owen Hart plummet to his death from 30 feet above the ring?
That said, I don't think the comparison is all that apt.
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Post by Ike on Apr 27, 2010 20:29:14 GMT -5
don't know who that is
bet he probably wasn't hit by gunfire from a roving band of insurgents or killed by a piece of shrapnel from a crude explosive rigged to the bottom of a car
i'm gonna guess that he probably was killed during a match in a controlled environment grappling onto another man in revealing tights for the entertainment of other men in exchange for money
edit: am i in the ballpark here?
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