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Post by kog3100edw on May 9, 2011 14:12:47 GMT -5
Whew. Level 9 or whichever one is that long vertical level with all the switches is just giving me fits. I can't get it done.
And I can't look at videos on the leaderboard for help because it doesn't let you see them until you complete a level? Actually, I probably agree with that policy to NOT give away how to do it... but I'm still a little frustrated. I've had to 'evenings' of attempts at it, and I'm not even close. Levels past that one have been WAAAAYYY easier!
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Post by caoslayer on May 9, 2011 15:02:11 GMT -5
I did it.
The trick is to save counters (keep 3, burn the fourth sometimes) until the part where are six blocks, then spam counters.
Remember that you get more meter back from one use if you kill enough people with it so spaming counters is the key to success.
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Post by kog3100edw on May 9, 2011 18:23:58 GMT -5
I thought I had done that up there, but I'll give it another go. Part of the aggravation is because of how pathetic the particular weapon is in this level... the 'spread gun'. Even the counter is pathetic compared to the standard homing missiles and bounce lasers. You blast off a counter, and the fact that each target within your blast radius gets hit once... ugh. There are a lot of targets that unless you counter multiple times or RT-pump up the power, they'll totally survive. I hate wasting multiple counter ticks on stupid turrets and medium-ish missile mecha when I know there's way more serious shit in the upper third.
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Post by justjustin on May 9, 2011 18:40:03 GMT -5
I'm at about stage 30, and while I'm enjoying the game I think it could have been a lot better if the stages followed some sort of logical progression, or were organized better (maybe different categories). As it is, the stages feel like they were randomly shuffled around, and some of them are just plain boring. Every time I clear a stage the next one could be shorter, longer, better, stupider, more frustrating, or more fun. I have no reason to expect any kind over the other. It could be a little puzzle, a "joke" stage, a counter attacking fest, a slow-and-careful shooting stage, an insane trial-and-error ordeal, or even something that feels closer the original Bangai-O. It's a very mixed experience and it's the reason I can't bring myself to play the game for more than 20-30 minutes at a time.
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Post by KeeperBvK on May 9, 2011 21:14:03 GMT -5
To me that sounds like a good concept to keep things varied. Too bad I won't be able to download this until October.  |
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Post by lanceboyle94 on May 10, 2011 20:29:37 GMT -5
I won't be able to DL it until... never, I think, since my 360's banned, and me and my brother thought about putting Freeboot (lol I'm a pirate) to install XBLA titles, but, since you gotta JTAG the console first (my console only has the DVD drive modded), and that means opening the system and soldering something to a specific point, we just decided to leave the console as-is.
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Post by susanismyalias on May 10, 2011 20:35:18 GMT -5
Opening 360s is a real pain. I ripped one apart like the hulk; I screamed and everything.
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Post by lanceboyle94 on May 10, 2011 21:18:36 GMT -5
There's also the E79 error, which may make me and my brother want to kill ourselves. It basically makes the console useless. Unless you change it back to its original NAND.
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Post by kog3100edw on May 11, 2011 13:14:11 GMT -5
Y'know, I'm an import gamer from way back and I've modded (chipped, cut, and disc-ed) almost every console I've owned. But this generation with my Xbox 360 and wii I just won't do it.
The whole updating, banning, bricking risk isn't worth it to me. I think it sucks this gen is so much trouble for modders/homebrewers. Did you know the risks before you JTAGed and all that, Lance? Or did you do it way early?
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Post by lanceboyle94 on May 11, 2011 16:35:08 GMT -5
I actually didn't do it. As I said in my OP, after me and my brother learned that you had to open the system and solder some cable to a specific point in the motherboard, otherwise rendering it useless and throwing an error unless you solder it on the right place, we decided not to touch it and just be comfortable with demos (and our 360 game discs, of course)
I'm now thinking about putting uLoader on my Wii, since the only way I got of playing games that isn't buying them for real, is to play them on WiiFlow with an USB drive, since my Wii's got the D3-2 drive. I may end up putting some WiiWare stuff in there too.
Also, your post reminded me of something my father said not too long ago about the Wii and the DS (and the GBA as well) and piracy:
"Nintendo is just a waste of money"
And I think he's right, since for the Wii and the DS we did have to waste some money for playing pirated games (buying a 16GB microSD to use with an USB adapter on the Wii, getting an Acekard for the DS), and I only ended up having two games for my GBA (Mario Kart and DKC2. Certainly the best stuff the guy who sold them to me had*)
*From what I can remember he also had Shrek 2, Ice Age 2, Finding Nemo and FIFA World Cup 2006
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Post by kog3100edw on May 11, 2011 17:35:09 GMT -5
Um, not to make this a big moral point, but maybe this'd all be much easier if you just stuck to legit games period. I don't know what discs cost retail down there where you are, but if you get used games cheap off ebay and then have them shipped as economically as possible (having patience of course), surely that costs less in time and effort (and maybe money) than having to deal with bricked or banned consoles, dodgy homebrew issues, and basement pressings of discs. That crap would drive me nuts.
But then again, PC gaming has too much farfing around for me too. So I'm not the poster child for being willing to fiddle in order to game.
Again, I don't know how affordable the hobby is there, Lance, but for me just having to fuck with 'can I play this or not' would be enough for me to just forego piracy altogether. All my mods were for un-pirated legit imports.
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Post by lanceboyle94 on May 11, 2011 21:47:06 GMT -5
Well, games ARE expensive here, even on MercadoLibre (our eBay). Even point cards for stuff like Xbox Live or the Wii Shop/DSi Shop are expensive.
I just miss the days where you could just buy pirated Genesis carts and play them right away, or having your console modchipped and playing pirated copies right away. Not this whole modding rigmarole. Hell, I had to re-flash my PSP twice! But so far I haven't gotten anything bricked, although the day may come when I'm gonna yell out "FUUUUU..." for a bricked console.
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Post by pepsimanvsjoe on May 14, 2011 23:53:03 GMT -5
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Post by kitten on May 16, 2011 2:21:08 GMT -5
Man, I was having a lot of fun with this one today, but I'm up around level 40 and all of the last 5 or 10 levels have been hardcore bullshit. I mean, Bangai-O has always been a bit cheap, but I'm getting annoyed when each level I'm playing takes me ten or so tries and has a very annoying and specific solution to beating it. I don't even feel like I'm exercising skill, anymore, more like I'm just solving frustrating puzzles that punish me with minutes wasted for each minor, incorrect step I make.
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Post by kog3100edw on May 16, 2011 14:03:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm finding myself really discombobulated by the difficulty spikes in general. I got through the level I was complaining about before, then sailed through the next four or five, then found another rock-hard one. And I'm not talking ten tries like you KCC, I'm sometimes taking twenty goes to get through. There's always like 'a key' to get through, and it seems to take me forever on these spike points to figure it out.
And I was aces on DC Bangai-O. That game just didn't seem as gimmick-y on most of the levels. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. I just remember skill would get you by. In this game there may be 'doing it' better or worse, but so many of the levels have ONE real solution with the difference in times and scores reflecting refinement.
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