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Post by Ike on Feb 3, 2011 10:18:56 GMT -5
Nah, the original theory of the game being Getsu Fuuma Den retooled for the U.S. doesn't quite work out, because the original TMNT was released in Japan as a TMNT game. Also, when I interviewed composer Hidenori Maezawa a few years ago, he specifically mentioned working on TMNT and how puzzled he was about the license. I think his exact words -- in a random English interjection for emphasis -- were, "Why turtle? Why ninja?" The relationship between the two games is probably more akin to Mega Man 2 and Mega Man 3 (one game iterating on the other's tech) than Doki Doki Panic and Super Mario Bros. 2 (same game with tweaks). I made the comparison of Contra vs. Contra Force. Similar, but not quite the same. |
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Post by Ryu the Grappler on Feb 3, 2011 10:31:21 GMT -5
Konami also tended to recycle a lot of play mechanics of their earlier games into newer games. The side-scrolling segments of Snake's Revenge had a bit of Rusn'n Attack and M.I.A. to them, and Arumana no Kiseki for the Disk System has the same grappling mechanic as the arcade game Roc'n Rope.
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Post by jp on Feb 3, 2011 13:03:51 GMT -5
Oh, I didn't realize TMNT's Japanese release predated the license making its way to Japan, but that explains a lot. I've always wondered why it was called "Geki Kame Ninja-den" while the sequels were branded as TMNT games.
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Post by acidonia on Feb 3, 2011 15:54:09 GMT -5
 Paulie Shore vs. Dinosaur Skeleton! CRUSTY!~ This is incredible Rather Different looking compared to their last Artwork  yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Getsu_FuhmaWeird how these get Put into the Yugioh Univerese but Not a Single thing from Contra or Castlevania has. |
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Post by Ryu the Grappler on Feb 4, 2011 16:49:06 GMT -5
Just to show the weird treatment that Konami gave to the Ninja Turtles in their first NES game, in the Japanese localization they turned April into Splinter's daughter in the game. I already knew that April refers to Splinter as "otō-san" in the game, but I always thought it was out of respect due to Splinter being the turtles' sensei/father figure. It never actually occurred to me until I read a scan of the manual that April was literally supposed to be Splinter's daughter (I'm guessing she was born before Splinter's mutation, since they mention Hamato's wife, who was killed by Oroku). Here's a scan of the manual. vivi200x200.blog50.fc2.com/blog-entry-1314.html |
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Post by lanceboyle94 on Feb 4, 2011 19:54:04 GMT -5
Konami is about as dense as Sega these days. So much good history, but they do nothing with it. I would love to play a new Wai Wai World, but it'll never happen. I'd say that the only thing they may give a crap about nowadays besides Contra, Castlevania and MGS is Pro Evolution Soccer. But, considering Konami's inclusion of music and stadium elements based on some of their other classic games on the PS3 and 360 (and maybe PC) versions of PES2011 as unlockables does show they do remember some of them (and I think that would be the first official appearance of Wai Wai World outside of Japan) |
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Post by muteKi on Feb 5, 2011 1:21:37 GMT -5
Konami Man showed up in PoR -- surely that counts?
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Post by lanceboyle94 on Feb 5, 2011 17:23:54 GMT -5
I haven't played Portrait of Ruin (if that's the PoR you mean), and I didn't know there was a Konami Man cameo on that one, but, considering it was released outside of Japan then it counts
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Post by jorpho on Feb 9, 2011 13:00:47 GMT -5
Say, does this mean that the TMNT Game Boy games were based off some other Japanese Konami GB games as well? (I still think TMNT2 GB is one of the more graphically impressive games on the system. It would make a lot of sense if its engine was not developed from scratch.)
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Post by Ryu the Grappler on Feb 9, 2011 13:14:01 GMT -5
Doubt it! They only made four games before Fall of the Foot Clan (Motocross Maniacs, Castlevania: The Adventure, Nemesis, and Quarth).
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Post by kitten on Feb 9, 2011 14:19:31 GMT -5
Weird how these get Put into the Yugioh Univerese but Not a Single thing from Contra or Castlevania has. Plenty of Gradius, though. Also, the Castlevania: Harmony of Despair stage based on this game is pretty fun. |
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Post by Catalyst on Feb 9, 2011 15:00:39 GMT -5
Goemon's in the cards. Hm, wonder if it's possible to have a completely Konami powered deck or atleast one that's clearly influenced by it.
Edit: Seems Konami beat me to it.
In The latest Yugioh game for the PS2 Yugioh Gx Tag Force Evolution or The Beginning of Destinys its known in America, if you input the Konami code into the card shop menu it unlocks the Midday Constellation (Noon Star) pack which is cards all based off Konami game series that all exist in the real card game. Here's the list of them.
Sasuke Samurai
Victory Viper XX03
B.E.S. Crystal Core (gradius boss)
B.E.S. Tetran(gradius boss)
Sasuke Samurai #2
Sasuke Samurai #4
A-Team: Trap Disposal Unit (The paper plane guys from Parodius)
B.E.S. Covered Core(gradius boss)
Fossil Excavation (The paper plane guys from Parodius)
Lady Ninja Yae
Power Capsule
Sasuke Samurai #3
Aitsu
Big Core(gradius boss)
Boss Rush(gradius boss spell card)
Cyclon Laser (Spell for gradius card)
Doitsu
Getsu Fuhma
Gradius
Gradius' Option
Koitsu
Moai Interceptor Cannon
Nanobreaker
Option Hunter
Soitsu
Space Mambo
Tactical Espionage Expert(Metal gear Solid based monster card)
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Post by rorshacma on Feb 9, 2011 15:53:44 GMT -5
Hm, looks like that pack is missing a couple. I know there are also Yugioh cards based off of Thunder Cross and Xexex as well. Unless those cards just didn't happen to be around yet when that particular game came out.
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Post by acidonia on Feb 9, 2011 16:32:38 GMT -5
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