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Post by kitten on Jul 23, 2011 1:09:34 GMT -5
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Post by Sketcz-1000 on Jul 23, 2011 2:41:18 GMT -5
"Metroidvania" is still a lame genre label (hence my remark) and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way. At least just ditch the "vania" part and call them "Metroid-types" if we're going to use a game's title to classify them. I've always liked the idea of that, calling them Metroidlikes in a vein similar to Roguelikes, which took the name from the original Rogue. The only addition CV:SOTN made to the Metroidlike formula was adding RPG-style stats, which I feel watered down the previous design mechanic of acquiring specific items to progress. The whole thing became bogged down - but that's a debate for another topic. HG101 has an article on the series: hardcoregaming101.net/wotd/wotd.htm |
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Post by Ryu the Grappler on Jul 23, 2011 3:03:15 GMT -5
"Metroidvania" makes sense if we're talking specifically about Castlevania games that uses the Metroid-style format (most of the 2D games after Symphony of the Night). But as a label for an entire sub-genre of platform games like Parish does all the time (both, in 1UP.com and Gamespite), it's a really idiotic term to use. Especially when you apply it retroactively to older games that don't play anything like Castlevania. The only other thing Symphony of the Night added (besides level-grinding) was the sub-weapon system from past Castlevania titles.
The term "Metroidlike" is not perfect, but it's better than just calling them "Metroidvanias" (and yes, semantics do matter before anyone objects to my point).
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Post by akumajobelmont on Jul 23, 2011 3:41:52 GMT -5
...and the page of "to 'Metroidvania' or to not Metroidvania" starts again... everytime someone dares mention the word it, it flares up *sigh* but back on topic  This game looks amazing. I don't think there's another game (besides maybe Mass Effect 3) that I'm hanging out for as much. WayForward, as always, never fail to knock my proverbial socks off. |
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Post by KeeperBvK on Jul 23, 2011 8:02:07 GMT -5
Despite the favorable previews, WayForward has decided to cancel it because there just isn't enough interest in 2D games nowadays. HA Or because they feel like the Alien franchise isn't popular in the West anymore! |
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Post by Sketcz-1000 on Jul 23, 2011 8:15:29 GMT -5
...and the page of "to 'Metroidvania' or to not Metroidvania" starts again... everytime someone dares mention the word it, it flares up *sigh* Is there a dedicated topic? I was enjoying this discussion with 2x4. |
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Post by jp on Jul 23, 2011 9:44:34 GMT -5
"Metroidvania" makes sense if we're talking specifically about Castlevania games that uses the Metroid-style format (most of the 2D games after Symphony of the Night). But as a label for an entire sub-genre of platform games like Parish does all the time (both, in 1UP.com and Gamespite), it's a really idiotic term to use. Especially when you apply it retroactively to older games that don't play anything like Castlevania. The only other thing Symphony of the Night added (besides level-grinding) was the sub-weapon system from past Castlevania titles. The term "Metroidlike" is not perfect, but it's better than just calling them "Metroidvanias" (and yes, semantics do matter before anyone objects to my point). I- I'm sorry for pooping on your soul like that. I didn't realize I was causing such offense by borrowing someone else's term that seemed more elegant than "free-roaming exploratory platformers with tool-based progression." Doesn't really roll off the tongue, you know? In this case, though, the game's producer referred to it as metroidvania, so I was just passing that along. |
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Post by Snarboo on Jul 23, 2011 11:41:48 GMT -5
Honestly it's an issue of semantics, but I try and shy away from using "metroidvania" for games that are direct clones of Metroid. In cases like that, "Metroid clone" suffices, although sometimes I use the more generic "exploration platformer".
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Post by ReyVGM on Jul 23, 2011 13:35:11 GMT -5
Or Castle'roids....? Tee hee.
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Post by Super Orbus on Jul 23, 2011 15:20:16 GMT -5
I'll keep using metroidvania just to torque people off.
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Post by lanceboyle94 on Jul 23, 2011 19:01:03 GMT -5
Damn. Looks like it's gonna be an awesome game.
It's games like this that show that the DS isn't dead yet. WayForward always delivers greatness (unless we're talking about Unfabulous or maybe WWF Betrayal)
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Post by Ryu the Grappler on Jul 23, 2011 21:23:16 GMT -5
I- I'm sorry for pooping on your soul like that. I didn't realize I was causing such offense by borrowing someone else's term that seemed more elegant than "free-roaming exploratory platformers with tool-based progression." Doesn't really roll off the tongue, you know? In this case, though, the game's producer referred to it as metroidvania, so I was just passing that along. "Explorative platformer" is a good choice you know. Or just "Metroid-types" like I've mentioned. The "vania" part is unnecessary and misleading, especially when applied to older games.  |
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Post by Dingo on Jul 24, 2011 17:21:55 GMT -5
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