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Post by Super Orbus on Sept 19, 2013 21:12:55 GMT -5
Trapt wasn't marketed in the West as part of the series.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 21:13:18 GMT -5
Guess they're treating it like Final Fantasy III. Lame.
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Post by cj iwakura on Sept 19, 2013 21:26:29 GMT -5
Trapt wasn't marketed in the West as part of the series. Which was beyond stupid of them, but it is still part of the series. It's Kagero II, this is III.
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Post by kal on Sept 19, 2013 21:45:53 GMT -5
Kagero 3, it's still technically the 5th game (god this is confusing). Doubly so because Trapt featured an unlockable outfit from the second AND also one from the third game.
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Post by Resident Tsundere on Sept 20, 2013 4:43:30 GMT -5
Wow. I never expected a new Deception game to come out, ever. This is really cool!
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Post by Ace Whatever on Sept 20, 2013 6:15:43 GMT -5
Trapt was never officially called Deception in Japan as far as I know, hence why I said the Kagero sub-numbering is dumb. I never played the PS2 game, but the main thing I remember about the PS1 games was that it was awesome at first, but the further you get into the game, the more it feels luck-based. Some people will just dodge every trap you throw at them, and it ends up feeling like a dice roll on every single trap, where you have a 1 in 10 chance of them actually getting caught each time. I'm pretty sure it's not random. Certain enemy classes are immune to certain trap types, and I'm guessing you're referring to the big bruiser type enemies you fight late game who can basically resist all brute force traps (but not elemental attacks).
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Post by Allie on Sept 20, 2013 9:08:40 GMT -5
Kagero 3, it's still technically the 5th game (god this is confusing). Doubly so because Trapt featured an unlockable outfit from the second AND also one from the third game. Not only that, but general opinion is that Trapt basically recycles the story of the first Deception, to boot. Enough time has passed that they may as well have just dropped the numbering and just called it "Deception : Blood Ties" in order to avoid that whole mess.
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Post by cj iwakura on Sept 20, 2013 19:08:15 GMT -5
Trapt really has nothing to do with Deception. None of the sequels do, the original is about a prince whose wife was kidnapped and he seeks revenge and makes a pact with the devil to get it. 2-4 are about female protagonists who get forced into killing people just to survive. 1's is actively after revenge.
As for the Kagero thing, my best guess is that Kagero was the one they felt revisiting after making the third game, so it keeps getting the sequels. Millennia's definitely the most iconic of the four heroes, so I kind of agree. (She's also in Trapt.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 20:15:24 GMT -5
I thought the first one was about you being burned at the stake, and you pray to the Devil to save your life?
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Post by cj iwakura on Sept 20, 2013 21:16:26 GMT -5
Well, that too. But some jerk also stole your girl.
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Post by cj iwakura on Oct 23, 2013 22:31:20 GMT -5
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Post by Super Orbus on Oct 23, 2013 23:32:58 GMT -5
Freaky dominatrix schoolgirls? Check.
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Post by Ace Whatever on Oct 24, 2013 1:13:09 GMT -5
And of course Japan decides that the heroine also needs a tramp stamp on top of the usual upper back tattoo...
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Post by Super Orbus on Oct 24, 2013 23:24:44 GMT -5
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Post by cj iwakura on Feb 23, 2014 11:04:06 GMT -5
I REALLY don't like the sound of this. This sounds awful. Removing all strategy from the series. Eh, it's not as bad as he makes it sound. There's three traps mapped to X now, and two more mapped to Circle and Triangle to make combos longer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFaVKrIKKY0If I'm reading into the video right, anyway.
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