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Post by Discoalucard on Apr 6, 2014 17:41:03 GMT -5
www.hardcoregaming101.net/ruleofrose/ruleofrose.htmA survival horror game for the PS2, Rule of Rose was released some controversy, which ended up being entirely unfounded. It's also a cool experience but rather dreadful to play, far worse than the typical entry in the genre. It's also one of the most expensive PlayStation 2 games in North America, if you're looking for a copy. Video Game Price Charts pegs loose copies at around $100.
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Post by TheGunheart on Apr 6, 2014 23:27:00 GMT -5
Gotta be honest; as far as horror game stories go, this one's second only to Silent Hill 2 for me.
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Post by elmajikos on Apr 7, 2014 7:12:18 GMT -5
The story was great but combat in this game was absolutely atrocious. Most of the time I used Brown as a meat shield while I ran around picking imps off, but there's a part where you have to fight them arena-style in a confined ring of broken furniture where I would get completely wrecked so much that it almost put me off finishing the game. I didn't find the mermaid boss that bad; it was agonisingly slow but not difficult.
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Post by Sketcz-1000 on Apr 7, 2014 11:07:10 GMT -5
If you can play PAL games the French release is around £20 and has English voices and text (last I checked, the prices do fluctuate).
I got bored around the airship level. Maybe I should try finishing it...
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Post by Shellshock on Apr 11, 2014 9:58:13 GMT -5
I found a complete copy of this at Gamestop years ago for about $20. I didn't know it was so expensive, but when I found out I hurried to try it out to see if I liked it enough to keep it. Didn't like it, mostly because of the bad writing/translation and story. Sold it for $100 online.
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Post by The Great Klaid on Apr 11, 2014 23:20:44 GMT -5
Thought this was the wrestling game looking at the thread title.
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Post by Super Orbus on Apr 12, 2014 0:04:42 GMT -5
I passed over this one because at the time it came out, word of mouth was pretty negative. I had no idea it had shot up in price so much.
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Post by wxbryant on Apr 12, 2014 6:47:07 GMT -5
I actually saw this get traded in at my store a year or two ago. I'd heard of it before (I stumbled on its TVTropes page once; the "controversy" was new to me) so it caught my eye. I'm not especially big on survival horror, though, so I passed. If I would've had any idea of its rarity and value, I might've been more tempted, but my company does frown on employees buying things and reselling them to other people...
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Post by Garamoth on Apr 15, 2014 15:29:16 GMT -5
Some notes/self-corrections: - What happened to the picture of the magazine Panorama? It's horribly tiny but I didn't find another one. That's the bit of video game journalism I'm most proud of: as far as I can tell, no english video game author mentions the article as the starting point of the moral panic. I got that from the book below. The actual magazine article I couldn't track down (it's not on the magazine's website). - The sepia image of Jennifer and her dog shows up twice (top and bottom). Maybe replace the upper one with a picture of the chalkboard item menu? - " some inanimate objects also speak in using the same stylistic device" should be " speak through the same". - The mention of Love-de-Lic could be linked to the page on HG 101. - After " It's effective because it's so unusual." add the sentence: " It also symbolizes the emotional "bonds" that tie the children together." I usually don't like to go on about symbolism, but in this case the game uses rope in a symbolic sense in the epilogue's storybook. - " Brown will not do the fetching part of fetch quests, but he can given any quest item" add " he can be given" - "And that theme." Ooops, the link to the song didn't make it into the article, the sentence makes no sense without it. "And that theme" Some links, which I forgot about: Rule of Rose Mysteries - All the speculation/theorizing you could ever ask for about the game. Official Rule of Rose Website - Official website, there's an interview with the team in the "staff" section. Julian Petley & al., Moral Panics in the Contemporary World, London, Bloomsbury Academic, 2013: a collection of essays containing an article on the hysteria surrounding Rule of Rose (Staksrud & Kirksæther, ''He who buries the little girl wins!' Moral panics as double jeopardy.: the case of Rule of Rose.').
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Post by hudakj on Apr 17, 2014 1:14:21 GMT -5
The controversy sounds like it was primarily a European situation. I don't recall any buzz at all in the North American press.
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Post by Catalyst on Apr 17, 2014 7:03:21 GMT -5
It pretty much was though magazines in the US mentioned it as well. It was all a bunch of hoopla. Also, I played this immediately after Haunting Ground so comparably the experienced soured me more knowing that Brown could've been like Hewie. The story in this game was really intriguing but I couldn't make heads or tales out of it. Maybe, if I replayed it again it hit home, but the gameplay itself was annoying. I getting pretty tired of people in survival horror games not knowing how to properly use a sidearm.
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Post by Discoalucard on Apr 17, 2014 8:55:14 GMT -5
The controversy sounds like it was primarily a European situation. I don't recall any buzz at all in the North American press. It was brought up at the time, as potentially the reason why SCEA passed on publishing it. I don't remember it getting to the point where it reached non-gaming press like in the newspaper clips posted here. Maybe there's some old IGN or Gamespot news articles we could dig up.
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Post by iwant on Apr 17, 2014 10:07:04 GMT -5
I don't know about what transpired outside of Europe, but what I do know is that the controversy went to seriously silly lengths in France. Politicians from the country's main right-wing party went bonkers over it. Hard.
One - Lionnel Luca - stated that Rule of Rose had to be banned on the grounds that it features "the rape of a 5-year-old girl" and allows the player to take part in "torture scenes". Such comments are covered in the article but a lesser-known fact is that he concluded his rant by basically calling the game... "nazi". Yeah, right.
Another one - Bernard Depierre - not only insisted that the game features "the rape, torture and murder of a young girl" - but also that it is "the game's main goal" and that the "player who'd show the most cruelty would win the game", whatever that's supposed to mean. I don't know who came up with this blatant lie, but for someone who's supposedly horrified by perverted stuff he sure has a lot of imagination.
Just picture a drunk Yoshiro Kimura trying to make sense of European conservatives going bananas over stuff that aren't even in his game. I remember reading in an interview (translated to French only) that he was aware of the controversy, and that it just made him terribly sad.
Also, to anyone who liked Rule of Rose's soundtrack, you should try listening to the works of György Ligeti - I'm pretty sure he had a great deal of influence over Yutaka Minobe.
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Post by Garamoth on Apr 17, 2014 10:43:57 GMT -5
Yeah, the strangest part about France is that all this nonsense made it into the preamble of a bill... but I guess that's how assemblies work: pass dubious legislation under a virtuous-sounding bill name and an emotional preamble. Do you have a link to that French interview? As for North America, it's like it says in the article: Sony simply refused to publish it there because it was afraid of backlash because of the game's sexual undertones. Then Atlus picked it up again, end of story. I can only imagine Atlus went: "What? Teenage girls? Sexual undertones? I'm in!" It's not much like their usual anime stuff, though. Thank Heaven for Little Girls: Why Rule of Rose May Be 2006's Most Controversial Game - Another interview with the director and assistant producer. Talks a bit about Sony's decision not to publish in North America. Citing its underage eroticism, Sony America pulls plug on Japanese video game - The name says it all, there are also some comparisons with other video game "scandals". Random comment: searching for the director's name, Shuji Ishikawa, sure produced a lot of pictures of wrestlers.
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Post by iwant on Apr 17, 2014 11:00:11 GMT -5
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