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Post by llj on Sept 29, 2014 17:24:05 GMT -5
I can definitely agree that a lot of notable offenders fail to get the sort of negative attention they might deserve. That doesn't exactly equate to a man saying what a woman has and does not have the right to get offended over when it comes to the depiction of females in games. But you have to admit that it does happen more often than not--male writers essentially getting on their White Knight high horse and thumping their feminist studies textbooks. Surely the irony cannot be lost on them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 18:31:30 GMT -5
I don't find it ironic if it's genuine. It's not about "saving" women, it's about equality for everyone. Or are only women allowed to champion their cause?
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Post by X-pert74 on Sept 29, 2014 23:09:59 GMT -5
FF6 had a Dutch release? I thought it never saw Europe. I think it was a popular import title back in the '90s.
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Post by alphex on Sept 30, 2014 6:57:33 GMT -5
It'd be kinda weird to be a mag that covers imports as well but then have no knowledge of video game logic. Oh well.
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Post by llj on Sept 30, 2014 8:19:39 GMT -5
I don't find it ironic if it's genuine. It's not about "saving" women, it's about equality for everyone. Or are only women allowed to champion their cause? The problem is that it paints an entire gender in a broad stroke. Not every woman is offended by the same thing. From my experience, I've found that they're far more likely to be offended by men presuming to speak for them, based solely what they've picked up in gender studies courses or what they've read about sexism in books. Trying to argue that a fictional woman's boobs are too big is trivializing the issue. The real question to ask is how we can get more creative voices who are female, to balance out the majority of male voices. Asking men to stop thinking like horny men is obscuring the real issue.
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Post by Joseph Joestar on Sept 30, 2014 10:38:46 GMT -5
I'm kind of looking forward to seeing if and when we get to the point where games are trying so hard to not piss off all of the different special interest groups that every game is a massive confused clusterfuck,. Either that, or video games are going to have to feature only genderless robots or inanimate objects so as not to offend people that "their" group wasn't properly represented and then they'll raise hell on Tumblr.
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Post by Allie on Sept 30, 2014 12:06:27 GMT -5
I'm kind of looking forward to seeing if and when we get to the point where games are trying so hard to not piss off all of the different special interest groups that every game is a massive confused clusterfuck,. Either that, or video games are going to have to feature only genderless robots or inanimate objects so as not to offend people that "their" group wasn't properly represented and then they'll raise hell on Tumblr. Better (or worse, depending on how morbid your curiosity is or isn't) yet, when we're talking getting an exact 50/50 ratio of male and female developers, how much will biology factor into that, versus desired identity? And how much of a shitfest will THAT argument devolve into over the internet?
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Post by Brand on Oct 2, 2014 9:58:33 GMT -5
Just to throw in my two cents from my experience.
My ex worked at GameFan back in the day. And he did tell me a story where once he was writing up a review for a game (which game I can't remember now) but he thought it was terrible and wrote up a negative review of it. One of the bigwigs at the mag came down and asked him if he could rewrite it because that game was being advertised in the magazine that month. My ex wouldn't back down on his review though and his negative review was published in the magazine.
And for Metacritic scores it can affect more then just bonuses. I worked at a smaller (medium?) sized game company who was owned by one of the biggest. And from my understanding the company I worked for was to left work autonomously until the game they were working on came out. Then the Metacritic score would be reviewed. If it did well enough the company would be left alone. If it didn't (and this was the case) the big company would come in and take over. Yeah, lets just say that didn't end well.
So, yeah there is some bullshit going on with game reviews. Though, I doubt the reviewers are actually the ones getting a ton of kickbacks. Also, Metacritic is like the worst thing to happen to video games ever (well maybe not ever but it is still complete bull).
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Post by Snarboo on Oct 2, 2014 10:12:38 GMT -5
Who was Metacritic even designed for in the first place? I mean it's similar to Rotten Tomatoes, but it would be truly ironic if it was meant to inform consumers of games that were massive duds later being used to deny game developers bonuses based on some arbitrary metric.
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Post by llj on Oct 2, 2014 14:05:59 GMT -5
I'm kind of looking forward to seeing if and when we get to the point where games are trying so hard to not piss off all of the different special interest groups that every game is a massive confused clusterfuck,. Either that, or video games are going to have to feature only genderless robots or inanimate objects so as not to offend people that "their" group wasn't properly represented and then they'll raise hell on Tumblr. Usually, being too safe more often ends up with something slightly bland, rather than a clusterfuck. I'd honestly prefer a game that was a confused clusterfuck over something competently bland. Grasshopper games are often politically incorrect AND massive confused clusterfucks, which is one of the reasons I kinda love that they exist in today's industry.
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Post by acidonia on Oct 2, 2014 14:28:31 GMT -5
A few years back Microsoft wanted to Delist XBLA titles if they had a poor metacritivc rating altogether though they never went though with it guess there not that stupid. Speaking of Negative reviews im sure this one counts. It look like the writer just dint like the show so gave it a 1/10 and they is much worse games on 360 than it. It was just a short average game to me nothing amazing but had some effort put into it at least. m.oxm.co.uk/47898/reviews/family-guy-back-to-the-multiverse
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Post by hashin on Oct 2, 2014 23:01:50 GMT -5
It'd be kinda weird to be a mag that covers imports as well but then have no knowledge of video game logic. Oh well. I think it was common for magazines outside of UK, Japan and North America cover import titles or else they wouldn't have much to talk about. I believe the low score was because it wasn't a very popular franchise on Netherlands, besides being a wordy game in a foreign language. I dunno, I might be very wrong.
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Post by alphex on Oct 3, 2014 6:53:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean, I know about the possibility of reviewing imports. The gaming mag I grew up reading (the German Total! - they gave FFVI an A) also did this, but I figured a mag that goes that far (it was quite a hassle to get some imports running) would have a certain degree of knowledge and expertise.
Oh well. I think Oni got rather mediocre ratings when it was first release, but has an active mod scene even today?
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Post by Woody Alien on Oct 3, 2014 9:05:35 GMT -5
I never claimed to be an arbiter of taste. People can and will get offended over a multitude of things that appear in media, and it's not up to me to decide what they can and can't get their jimmies rustled over, as long as they don't begin calling for the work in question to be forcibly censored to conform to their own tastes and worldview. That doesn't change my own opinion that the artistic merits of Dragon's Crown are much too high for the game and its director to have been dragged through the mud to such an extent, especially with many far worse offenders on the market. That's it, it's very annoying to see that DC is so full of artistic and cultural references, but almost everyone on both sides of the issue is almost entirely focused on boobs and butts: thorough analysis of game's trailer
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