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Post by Exhuminator on Oct 12, 2015 8:21:37 GMT -5
Nocturne is not for beginners or even general JRPG fans. While it's not the hardest JRPG I've ever beat, it's up there. This particular SMT entry never holds your hand, and constantly expects the player to be paying attention. If you get sloppy and let your guard down, Nocturne will kick your teeth in for laughs. But that's only because this game genuinely respects its player's intelligence and ability, and I respect this game all the more for it.
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Post by kaoru on Oct 12, 2015 13:25:50 GMT -5
Tho I wonder if not being acustomed to the usual JRPG trappings doesn't mean you don't actually have an easier time getting the feel of how Nocturne wants to be played.
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Post by Neo Rasa on Oct 12, 2015 14:42:14 GMT -5
I would not playing JRPGs a lot would be a huge help since you won't be afraid to experiment with the game's items and fusing and so on like how it's meant to be played anyway. A lot of the difficulty in the series comes from people trying to win by grinding instead of changing up their strategy. The games are definitely challenging either way but not having that late PS1/early PS2 mindset of how JRPGs work would probably be a benefit.
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Post by Exhuminator on Oct 12, 2015 21:05:37 GMT -5
One of my favorite things about Nocturne is that grinding gets you nowhere.
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Post by Ryzuki on Oct 12, 2015 21:15:37 GMT -5
Doesn't the MC get stronger and gain SP with each level? Although it may not be done by everyone, I'll grind a bit if there's a certain power I want that can be achieved through leveling up. I may just be an idiot, but in any SMT game, I hardly understand the demon summoning thing at all, so sometimes I just gotta level.
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Post by Chronis on Oct 12, 2015 21:37:46 GMT -5
^^Yup. Grinding definitely isn't the way to progress, but you still need to dedicate a bit of time to making sure you're properly leveled. A good way they balance that is by not letting you fuse demons stronger than you. It gives the incentive to do a bit of grinding so you aren't underleveled, but of course, effective grinding is still learning how the combat works. And sometimes the best way is literally just hitting autobattle!
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Post by Neo Rasa on Oct 12, 2015 22:16:03 GMT -5
Something else I do love about Nocturne is how fast the auto battle is compared to many other RPGs.
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Post by GamerL on Oct 12, 2015 22:25:18 GMT -5
JRPGs are pretty much my white whale when it comes to games, I've tried my hand at the genre several times but the only one I've managed to finish is Persona 3, I like them though but I kinda suck at them and also sometimes lack the patience to go all the way when it comes to their extreme lengths. But SMT and it's occult themes seems a lot cooler to me than Final Fantasy's new age themes and general "AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA" tone (but, I like FF just fine too ) And Nocturne sounds like one of the most intriguing, but it also sounds like one of the most hardcore, I like the idea though that it's more about strategy than just mindless grinding. Tell me, what are the secrets to balancing time playing JRPGs while also time to play other games?
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Post by Ike on Oct 13, 2015 2:11:01 GMT -5
I just want to hear the cat talk about dames in a 20s accent
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Post by Exhuminator on Oct 13, 2015 9:08:41 GMT -5
Tell me, what are the secrets to balancing time playing JRPGs while also time to play other games? Well, personally I'm a 36 year old working family man with decidedly limited free time for gaming. But I still manage to play through some JRPGs every year. The way I do it is a combination of sleep deprivation and scheduled playing time. I only play games late at night after the rest of the house is asleep. Basically 10pm-1am is my playing time. So that means a typical 30 hour JRPG can be finished like this in about 10 days, usually I can finish a JRPG in at least two weeks as such. But that also means that I'm focusing on one game at a time, not bouncing between titles. So to finish a JRPG like this, one has to remain both interested and dedicated. (I'm currently playing through the first Shadow Hearts for example.) If it's too monotonous to focus on one 30-60 hour long JRPG as your sole game, you can always just play the JRPG one night and some other game the next night, and flip flop like that. Eventually you'll finish the JRPG while also finishing other games. Here's a nice trailer for Nocturne: www.youtube.com/watch?v=__AYd80yVlE
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Post by Resident Tsundere on Oct 15, 2015 1:39:54 GMT -5
I don't think that Nocturne would be too hard if you consult a FAQ when you need to. There are some bosses where it really helps to know their weaknesses beforehand.
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