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Post by Scylla on Aug 29, 2015 18:57:56 GMT -5
Nintendo fanboys (not to be confused with regular Nintendo fans) are definitely an interesting bunch. Even if you have a totally romanticized vision of past Nintendo, I don't know how anybody could believe that everything Nintendo is doing these days is perfect. The lack of innovation, the hand-holding, the nostalgia cash-grabs, the farming out of their franchises, just to name a few issues.
I'd say there are a few other developers/publishers with a similar bizarre level of blind devotion. Working Designs/Gaijinworks fanboys are absurdly overzealous and kiss the ground Vic Ireland walks on, and if you don't find the rewritten scripts beyond hilarious, you're just a humorless curmudgeon. Falcom fanboys worship the developer to the extreme too, though they seem pretty chill when it comes to criticism, even if they'll never voice any themselves.
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Post by cj iwakura on Aug 29, 2015 19:19:54 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of Working Designs, but that's because I'd rather have a fun script than one that's bland, and their works always have character. Also, he is very choosey about what he localizes, and I respect that. Vic'd never bring us shit like Conception II or Last Rebellion.
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Post by 90sgamer92 on Aug 29, 2015 19:29:11 GMT -5
^ There was (allegedly, I can't read Japanese) a story recently how some employee was harrased at Nintendo in a Konami-esque fashion which drove a deaf worker to attempt suicide. jin115.com/archives/52086752.htmlGoogle translator: [ Sad news ] Nintendo was still black companies . " Hearing impaired of attempted suicide cover-up the incident " most facts and found Shocking internal circumstances to overturn large Nintendo of image that has been sold in the image of ultra-blue-chip companies, but I have been exposed in the blog written by former employee Rashiki person. Content, the presence of incompetent boss, corporate bullying and, the act of hunting down women who have been joined by people with disabilities frame, on top of that cover-up of the attempted suicide incident, and the like. ↓ Or for the "would have been blue-chip companies a leading Japanese game culture of Nintendo, in fact had carried out much of the insanely employees, such as not hear handle it a black company" was shocking is the fact that, at once and burst into flames in the center of the net .
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Post by lolctopus on Aug 29, 2015 19:29:53 GMT -5
I think it sucks he got fired, I'm sure it was his dream job, but obviously he wasn't supposed to talk about something and they couldn't trust him after that. let's be honest if he knew about NX or whatever it's called and talked about it, wouldn't be a huge disaster for Nintendo?
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Post by derboo on Aug 29, 2015 19:41:11 GMT -5
I think it sucks he got fired, I'm sure it was his dream job, but obviously he wasn't supposed to talk about something and they couldn't trust him after that. By that logic, every crime would demand the maximum penalty because people with non-violent offenses just cannot be trusted to follow ANY law. let's be honest if he knew about NX or whatever it's called and talked about it, wouldn't be a huge disaster for Nintendo? Most likely not.
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Post by Scylla on Aug 29, 2015 19:41:40 GMT -5
Also, he is very choosey about what he localizes, and I respect that. Vic'd never bring us shit like Conception II or Last Rebellion. Vay? Even the Working Designs staff themselves didn't think it was very good, and that fact is painfully clear in the localization. Also when they went under, they were in the middle of desperately trying to bring that sub-par PS2 Goemon out in the US.
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Post by lolctopus on Aug 29, 2015 19:51:12 GMT -5
I think it sucks he got fired, I'm sure it was his dream job, but obviously he wasn't supposed to talk about something and they couldn't trust him after that. By that logic, every crime would demand the maximum penalty because people with non-violent offenses just cannot be trusted to follow ANY law. let's be honest if he knew about NX or whatever it's called and talked about it, wouldn't be a huge disaster for Nintendo? Most likely not. why not? after the n64 came out other companies started making analog controls after dreamcast other consoles had online capabilities after wii other companies have motion controls
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Post by Joseph Joestar on Aug 29, 2015 19:54:30 GMT -5
Also, he is very choosey about what he localizes, and I respect that. Vic'd never bring us shit like Conception II or Last Rebellion. Vay? Even the Working Designs staff themselves didn't think it was very good, and that fact is painfully clear in the localization. Also when they went under, they were in the middle of desperately trying to bring that sub-par PS2 Goemon out in the US. Vay was pretty fun, actually.
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Post by JDarkside on Aug 29, 2015 20:09:44 GMT -5
Nintendo is a super old school company. That's mostly good for job security and keeping things running out of the red, but that also means their office politics are a few decades behind and lead to crap like this. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was pressured to make such a statement, or if he realized that talking like a human being would ultimately be something his higher ups would never allow too late.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:21:01 GMT -5
What jdarkside said. As someone who loves Nintendo games and has owned no consoles but theirs (plus a hand-me-down Atari), their sheer opaqueness is infuriating at times.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:29:04 GMT -5
No, I'd err on the side of the guy just running his mouth without thinking about the consequences. Like Scylla said, you can tell he's a stream-of-consciousness kind of guy by the way he went on and on about how his family is screwed because he's lost his job. A professional wouldn't have made the mistake in the first place, let alone whined about the money problems that would come from it.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Aug 29, 2015 20:39:43 GMT -5
Nintendo fanboys (not to be confused with regular Nintendo fans) are definitely an interesting bunch. I appreciate this. I come across so many people on internet where they think they can get away with generalizing the obsessed fanboy behavior and turn it to think anyone who likes Nintendo will blindly say okay with everything they do. You guys don't do that fyi. A particular problem is that you have to be angry with everything to show you aren't a shill, but I"m just plain indifferent to a lot things people rage over. =/ Anyways, I think the part about the consumer and localization didn't help. I have not listened to it but apparently he said it mockingly? That isn't something I like to hear from Nintendo rep. I'm just saying. I don't think he needed to be fired right away, I think Reggie got off with more statements.
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Post by derboo on Aug 29, 2015 20:42:24 GMT -5
why not? after the n64 came out other companies started making analog controls after dreamcast other consoles had online capabilities after wii other companies have motion controls "Disaster" would imply that the Saturn 3D Control Pad would have destroyed the N64 if only it had come out two weeks earlier instead of two weeks later. The "success" of none of the three was rooted in the technological innovation but the proof of usability and marketability (which the Dreamcast sure as hell didn't do properly for online), neither of which is laid bare by someone running their mouth about this or that detail.
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Post by moran on Aug 29, 2015 20:45:44 GMT -5
Just another example of our rotten to the core corporate culture. Yes, the company has every legal right to fire him above those statements, but they're childish assholes for doing so, and they're childish assholes for demanding that amount of secrecy in the first place. So firing an employee for insubordination is childish now? If the company deems information a trade secret, why does it make them childish for getting rid of someone who talks openly about them even when he (presumably) signed a contract to not do that thing? Exactly. Given how tightly Nintendo works, this had to have known what he was doing would carry the consequence of loosing is job. And I'm sure they conveyed the message. I work for Japanese company that is just as popular as Nintendo and they remind us every chance the get about their rules/policies and this is one of them. Call it childish all you want, but they need to protect their brand. Whether it's someone revealing important company policies or simply someone speaking out of turn they have to take action. They can't pick and choose who gets reprimanded. Joseph Joestar but I'm a Patriots fan......
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Post by lolctopus on Aug 29, 2015 20:49:17 GMT -5
why not? after the n64 came out other companies started making analog controls after dreamcast other consoles had online capabilities after wii other companies have motion controls "Disaster" would imply that the Saturn 3D Control Pad would have destroyed the N64 if only it had come out two weeks earlier instead of two weeks later. The "success" of none of the three was rooted in the technological innovation but the proof of usability and marketability (which the Dreamcast sure as hell didn't do properly for online), neither of which is laid bare by someone running their mouth about this or that detail. maybe disaster is too big of a word. would you agree it could cause Nintendo to loose money to their competition ?
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