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Post by ReyVGM on Jul 8, 2017 3:01:02 GMT -5
I'm talking entirely in jest here, man. Shirley you jest.
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Post by magic89 on Jul 8, 2017 7:47:39 GMT -5
Ive played on Emulatpr years ago and like this game. Its not best but playble. I olso wonder what happends if you refuse join Azeem to your party.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Jul 8, 2017 11:08:19 GMT -5
I dunno, I think I prefer the articles written in a positive light (And really, what's with the BS "IT DUMB COZ NO HATE WHAT ME HATE" stuff? Seriously guys). I tend to fight the negative articles tend to veer into AVGN territory and usually feel ranty and not as interesting. Well, it doesn't have to go all the way into negative per se, but it could be a bit more nuanced. It kind of seems the author is just praising literally every aspect of it. It just doesn't feel very objective.
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Post by Lord Dalek on Jul 8, 2017 11:35:24 GMT -5
I dunno, I think I prefer the articles written in a positive light (And really, what's with the BS "IT DUMB COZ NO HATE WHAT ME HATE" stuff? Seriously guys). I tend to fight the negative articles tend to veer into AVGN territory and usually feel ranty and not as interesting. Well, it doesn't have to go all the way into negative per se, but it could be a bit more nuanced. It kind of seems the author is just praising literally every aspect of it. It just doesn't feel very objective. Yeah it only just stops short of insulting the reader's intelligence directly as Scezpaniak did in his opening paragraph.
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Post by toei on Jul 8, 2017 15:06:59 GMT -5
I dunno, I think I prefer the articles written in a positive light (And really, what's with the BS "IT DUMB COZ NO HATE WHAT ME HATE" stuff? Seriously guys). I tend to fight the negative articles tend to veer into AVGN territory and usually feel ranty and not as interesting. Well, it doesn't have to go all the way into negative per se, but it could be a bit more nuanced. It kind of seems the author is just praising literally every aspect of it. It just doesn't feel very objective. The articles on HG101 aren't quite reviews - they tend to put more emphasis on information and description than opinion - but neither can be "objective". Information can be presented neutrally, but the moment you get into description, the author's opinion is bound to creep in. As soon as the author even implies that Robin Hood or any of its aspects are good, bad, or somewhere in between, they have left objectivity behind. If the author believes the game is good, to write otherwise just to please the crowds would be a lie. The HG101 article submission guide does ask that writers avoid gushing, and generally speaking overly negative articles work better as kusoge. This article has a pretty straightforward, non-controversial tone, so I don't see the problem. He could have just added a line stating "other people think this game sucks", but what's the point? Else he'd have had to argue that those people are wrong, and the tone would've become defensive.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Jul 9, 2017 5:43:37 GMT -5
Well maybe 'objective' wouldn't be the right word, but a more nuanced article would make it seem less like the author is letting his personal fondness of the game get in the way of a critical look at it. Giving nearly every possible aspect of the game praise doesn't make for a very interesting article.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Jul 9, 2017 6:14:37 GMT -5
They can be more or less impartial, and more or less informed. HG101 has a good balance for the most part, wouldn't want to take all personality out of the texts.
The point is to inform that your opinion is outside the norm for those who know nothing about the game, and though that in itself might not say that much, you can then go into what most people think and why you disagree. It can potentially make the text more interesting and it doesn't need to get defensive in tone (not that there's a problem with that?), you can acknowledge others opinions in different ways.
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Post by starscream on Jul 9, 2017 9:54:29 GMT -5
"What most people think about game X" is something that probably would be good to unpack though. Nobody takes scientific polls obviously, but still.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Jul 9, 2017 10:32:15 GMT -5
Unpack?
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Post by starscream on Jul 9, 2017 11:02:24 GMT -5
Unpack=basically clarify, explain it further. Not 100% sure if it's appropriate there. Or is it another British/American difference?
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Jul 9, 2017 11:41:14 GMT -5
Ok got it, well I'm swedish so it's flexible.
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Post by toei on Jul 9, 2017 13:10:23 GMT -5
ommadawnyawn2 : It's hard to get a grip on what most people think of a particular game, though, particularly if it's old or obscure. Just in this thread, we've seen that the reviews at the time weren't overly negative, and that the negative impression of most members who commented come from vague childhood memories of limited play, an AVGN vid and a Seanbaby article. That's about as flimsy a basis as it gets to assess popular opinion! And if you dig a little deeper, you'll find that quite a few "infamous" games, particularly for the NES, weren't infamous until James Rolfe or another Internet comedian made fun of them. But these are entertainers, they're here to make fun of shit, they're not trying to do thorough reviews of anything. You're right that a defensive article isn't necessarily uninteresting, but it makes more sense if it's about a well-known game, particularly one that's current. I also don't know if it's a great fit for HG101. I took a swipe at lazy gamers who base their opinions on Let's Play vids in a previous article, and Kurt deleted it. I didn't really mind that particular edit, cause in retrospect it made the whole thing sound petty. If you're trying to write the definitive article about a game you find interesting, it's probably better to write above the negativity. But it's a complicated subject, and I'll admit my own views aren't quite settled about it.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Jul 9, 2017 13:26:05 GMT -5
I agree when it comes to this thread and on entertainment vids, I was talking more in general there. I don't think it's that hard to get a decent sense of the popular opinion on a game nowadays, with lots of magazine scans (well tbf those are usually from when it was new) and various reader or YT reviews here and there that you can look up. Except for obscure games of course.
I dunno, I don't agree in general but there are probably some cases where I would. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Post by drpepperfan on Jul 9, 2017 13:35:59 GMT -5
Pointless correction time, but as far as I know AVGN hasn't done a video on this game.
That's my entire contribution to this thread.
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Post by toei on Jul 9, 2017 13:54:08 GMT -5
For some reason I thought someone had written he had, but I think I just got confused with the post about the Seanbaby takedown and another arguing that overly negative articles "veer into AVGN territory".
I'm going to try this damn game when I get the chance.
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