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Feb 28, 2008 20:38:39 GMT -5
Post by YourAverageJoe on Feb 28, 2008 20:38:39 GMT -5
Yes, and the Mana Sword one isn't supposed to be a buggy mess.
It's probably just a bad patching, you could try again with a different patcher.
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Feb 28, 2008 22:26:56 GMT -5
Post by Ultragoat on Feb 28, 2008 22:26:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I just got the Mana Sword translation, and everything is fine. The bad one that I had was Dragon-something, so anyone thinking about trying this game, don't get that translation.
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Dec 7, 2008 11:26:19 GMT -5
Post by vagiel on Dec 7, 2008 11:26:19 GMT -5
Maybe to this article last remnant should be added. It is an actual SaGa title with everything that summaries it. It has formations, skills learned during combat, status upgrade as you use them. And of course it is made by the same people including Akitoshi Kawazu.
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Dec 7, 2008 13:54:22 GMT -5
Post by NINJA IN U.S.A. on Dec 7, 2008 13:54:22 GMT -5
Did Romancing SaGa 1-3 for SFC get English hacks yet? I'll be shocked if they haven't because other Japan only Square games for the system had translations like Rudra and Live-A-Live.
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Dec 7, 2008 14:32:12 GMT -5
Post by Ultragoat on Dec 7, 2008 14:32:12 GMT -5
3 has one. I'm pretty sure 1 and 2 don't.
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Dec 8, 2008 16:55:34 GMT -5
Post by cj iwakura on Dec 8, 2008 16:55:34 GMT -5
I liked what I played of Unlimited Saga, and Frontier 2 was just about as epic as I'd been lead to believe.
Maybe I'll beat the final egg one day.
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Dec 8, 2008 20:54:10 GMT -5
Post by Strider on Dec 8, 2008 20:54:10 GMT -5
Romancing SaGa 3 is definitley worth playing; if memory serves, I used the Mana Sword translation earlier this year and didn't have any trouble with it. Some advice if you're playing for the first time:
- You're definitely going to want to look up a FAQ for it- it's a bit of an excercise in plotting a course through all of the available quests that ends up with a party strong enough to win the game. I've heard complaints about the game being 'impossibly hard', but really, I think it's more a matter that the game is balanced for a moderately tweaked-out party as opposed to an 'average' one. You need a well-balanced party and good techniques and good stats and good weapons for all your characters.
- Try not to over-level yourself; if your HP gets too high, it becomes difficult to learn good attacks.
- Keep multiple saved games; there are a number of places (particularly in the endgame!) where you can get stuck if you're not strong enough to complete a given quest. It is generally a good idea to save before starting any new 'quest'.
I liked both of the Frontier games; Unlimited SaGa struck me as a game that a certain type of player would really get into, but I'm not that 'certain type'. My roomate in college spent hours reverse-engineering the weapon-forging system from Legend of Mana to generate ridiculously overpowered weapons; I can see him really getting into Unlimited SaGa.
- HC
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Dec 19, 2008 17:50:13 GMT -5
Post by Strider on Dec 19, 2008 17:50:13 GMT -5
Okay, sorry for bumping this thread again without anything really substantive to add, but I thought I'd mention/ask a couple things. 1. I've learned mostly by chance that there are a *lot* of hacks of this game coming out of Japan, apparently... A bunch of them are on YouTube if you search for "Romancing Saga 3 hack"; this one, for example, has a bunch of new characters imported from other games facing off against Saurin as he appeared in the original Romancing SaGa. These are hosted at the Japanese site Romancing @ Wiki: www3.atwiki.jp/romancing/. What little I can gather implies to me that this is a bunch of small patches rather than one large one, but it's still pretty cool... The amount of 'fan energy' in Japan is alwasy mind-boggling to me. 2. I have started to get the Romancing SaGa jones I get every couple months- are there any decent translations of Romancing SaGa 2? Barring that, are there any that at least cover the menus? - HC
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Dec 21, 2008 16:20:42 GMT -5
Post by Justinzero on Dec 21, 2008 16:20:42 GMT -5
Unfortunately, there isn't anything good for Romancing SaGa 2 or 1. Which pisses me off, because they seem like such good games. If only I could read Kanji, I would totally play through these. At least there cheap on Ebay.
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Dec 21, 2008 16:57:22 GMT -5
Post by Smithee on Dec 21, 2008 16:57:22 GMT -5
Man, am I the only guy who likes the original GB ones? It seems that way, because to me, they're classics! And of course I love Saga Frontier. Hey, I own that!
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Dec 21, 2008 21:14:57 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2008 21:14:57 GMT -5
This series constantly baffles me. It's fundamentally flawed at every conceivable level, yet somehow it has a rabid fanbase. To each their own...but man.
I'd put the SaGa series right up there with Threads of Fate, Shadow Hearts, and the "Mana" series.
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Dec 21, 2008 21:56:55 GMT -5
Post by Strider on Dec 21, 2008 21:56:55 GMT -5
Man, am I the only guy who likes the original GB ones? It seems that way, because to me, they're classics! And of course I love Saga Frontier. Hey, I own that! SaGa 2 is one of my favorite RPGs of all time, actually. The original SaGa seems to get a lot of attention in certain circles, too, although I think 2 represented a substantial imrovement over it on all fronts. - HC
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Dec 22, 2008 0:20:11 GMT -5
Post by Justinzero on Dec 22, 2008 0:20:11 GMT -5
This series constantly baffles me. It's fundamentally flawed at every conceivable level, yet somehow it has a rabid fanbase. To each their own...but man. I'd put the SaGa series right up there with Threads of Fate, Shadow Hearts, and the "Mana" series. Can you explain how its "flawed" as it would have to be severely broken, which its not. Also, every series you mentioned, happens to be favorites of mine. I guess our gaming tastes are different
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Dec 22, 2008 0:49:33 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2008 0:49:33 GMT -5
Can you explain how its "flawed" as it would have to be severely broken, which its not. Also, every series you mentioned, happens to be favorites of mine. I guess our gaming tastes are different The SaGa games always felt like the brain child of an artist who's so busy dreaming in the clouds, he's forgotten that you need feet to stand on the ground. The FF Legend series was my first experience with his work, and for a long time I was convinced that it was an example of Square trying to push something out the door before it was ready, just so they could cash in on the Final Fantasy name. Then I played SaGa Frontier and realized that those earlier missteps were INTENTIONAL design choices. I really could go on for days in an attempt to chronicle all of my grievances with the various games in the series, but a few of the more standout issues would be: 1) Lack of any direction provided by the game Freedom is one thing, but these games just throw you out to the wolves and pretend that it's all in the spirit of open-ended gameplay. How many empty zones do you have to visit in SaGa Frontier before you accidentally stumble across a quest you can actually take? 2) Lousy Art It doesn't help that most of the titles are usually about as aesthetically pleasing as Rosie O'Donnell in a sauna. Graphics aren't everything, but if I have to trudge around hell's half-acre just to find something to actually experience in the game, I would at least prefer to not feel like my eyes are being melted by the images on the screen. SaGa Frontier II was slightly better about this, but I never swooned over the "gorgeous" watercolored backgrounds like most people appear to have done. They always just felt extremely flat and void of life. On top of that, the character sprites looked more like marionettes than heroes. 3) The "Spark" System If I wanted to spend all day randomly hoping for something to work out in my favor, I'd go to Vegas. I will say this much, though. The basic plot structure for Romancing SaGa 2 is very sound. I really like the idea of a generational tale, and the concept of each subsequent character "inheriting" the skills of their forebearers is very unique. Phantasy Star III was the first title that I ever saw make an attempt at something along those lines, and we all know how that turned out. Like I said, though, there are a lot of things that I really dislike about the SaGa series, but it looks like there are just as many people who seem to be entertained by those very same aspects. Different strokes for different folks. I've just never understood the appeal of those titles, and never will.
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Dec 22, 2008 8:18:58 GMT -5
Post by derboo on Dec 22, 2008 8:18:58 GMT -5
Can you explain how its "flawed" as it would have to be severely broken, which its not. Well, that sounds like a broken game to me: Romancing SaGa 3 is definitley worth playing; if memory serves, I used the Mana Sword translation earlier this year and didn't have any trouble with it. Some advice if you're playing for the first time: - You're definitely going to want to look up a FAQ for it- it's a bit of an excercise in plotting a course through all of the available quests that ends up with a party strong enough to win the game. I've heard complaints about the game being 'impossibly hard', but really, I think it's more a matter that the game is balanced for a moderately tweaked-out party as opposed to an 'average' one. You need a well-balanced party and good techniques and good stats and good weapons for all your characters. - Try not to over-level yourself; if your HP gets too high, it becomes difficult to learn good attacks. - Keep multiple saved games; there are a number of places (particularly in the endgame!) where you can get stuck if you're not strong enough to complete a given quest. It is generally a good idea to save before starting any new 'quest'. I liked both of the Frontier games; Unlimited SaGa struck me as a game that a certain type of player would really get into, but I'm not that 'certain type'. My roomate in college spent hours reverse-engineering the weapon-forging system from Legend of Mana to generate ridiculously overpowered weapons; I can see him really getting into Unlimited SaGa. - HC Games that want to fool you into thinking you got complete freedom but really give you none at all because of completely broken balancing like the example above are terrible time-wasters and frankly bad games.
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