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Post by edmonddantes on Oct 2, 2018 1:51:44 GMT -5
Dragon Slayer, Dragon Spirit, Dragon Scroll (god, what is with the "Dragon S." pattern?), Dragonstomper... Seems like a real trend. Dragon Sinker! Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows.... yada yada Dragon SLAVE!!!(City blows up) .... Doesn't happen to me much with games actually, except with initials. When you say FF (someone already used this one) it can refer to either an RPG, a beat-em-up, or a fighting game. SF can be either a Sega strategy-RPG or a Capcom one-on-one fighting game series. Back in the day, the term "War2" was used both for Warcraft II and Warlords II. oh, and is MI Monkey Island or Mission Impossible? .... What I do see a lot is with movies and cartoons (it doesn't help that the companies involved seem to be intentionally trying to cause this confusion). Try searching for "The New Scooby Movies." You'll either get those episodes where Scooby met a guest star every episode... or the actual new line of Scooby movies. And of course, anything that has ever had a remake is gonna be gold for this.
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Post by Ace Whatever on Oct 2, 2018 1:59:44 GMT -5
Sparkster the standalone SNES game or the Genesis game which is a sequel to Rocket Knight Adventures (not at all compounded by both games having the same cover)? Owing to having never played either, I keep confusing La Mulana & Spelunky and I keep thinking one of them is a remake of an old NES game whose name I can't recall (EDIT: it's called Spelunker ) where falling one pixel height will kill you.
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Post by Bumpyroad on Oct 2, 2018 5:05:06 GMT -5
Home, Gone Home, Sweet Home, Home Sweet Home..
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Post by kingmike on Oct 2, 2018 11:30:21 GMT -5
Sparkster the standalone SNES game or the Genesis game which is a sequel to Rocket Knight Adventures (not at all compounded by both games having the same cover)? Owing to having never played either, I keep confusing La Mulana & Spelunky and I keep thinking one of them is a remake of an old NES game whose name I can't recall (EDIT: it's called Spelunker ) where falling one pixel height will kill you. Just watching videos of Spelunky, it certainly looks inspired by Spelunker.
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Post by Preki on Oct 3, 2018 4:16:15 GMT -5
Unreal and Unreal Tournament - most people don't distinguish between the two since it was Tournament that got immensely popular and quickly overshadowed its precedessor.
Command & Conquer (Tiberian series) and C&C Red Alert. At least in my country, C&C was synonymous with Red Alert for some odd reason, RA2 was particurarly popular among general player community. I remember one day I was playing Tiberian Dawn and my brother approached me and asked - is this Red Alert? Are you playing Russians? Yeah, he mistook Brotherhood of Nod for Soviets and Kane for Yuri!
Metal Gear. Oh, boy. When you say Metal Gear to Metal Gear fan, they automatically think "Solid", not the MSX/NES 8-bit game. Ditto for the MSX-only sequel, it gets easily mistaken for MGS2.
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Post by alphex on Oct 3, 2018 8:02:24 GMT -5
In Germany, C&C: Red Alert was called C&C2. So Tiberian Sun was part 3. I think that has been retconned, but it was super confusing early on.
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Post by dsparil on Oct 3, 2018 8:45:07 GMT -5
The weird thing is that Red Alert was supposed to be a prequel but Westwood never got a chance to fully link up the two series. Apparently Renegade 2 was going to make that explicit showing the Soviet Union becoming The Brotherhood of Nod. So at the time, Tiberium Sun really was part 3!
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Post by edmonddantes on Oct 3, 2018 13:20:50 GMT -5
Metal Gear. Oh, boy. When you say Metal Gear to Metal Gear fan, they automatically think "Solid", not the MSX/NES 8-bit game. Ditto for the MSX-only sequel, it gets easily mistaken for MGS2. And let's not even get started on the name issues surrounding Ghost Babel... Speaking of name issues caused by English releases... I hate it when people call Final Fantasy IV "Final Fantasy II." (Ditto for caling 6 three). It made sense at the time, but now that the entire series is available in English under their original titles, can we call them what they are? It's absolutely annoying when people say "II," I suggest a FAQ or strategy for maximizing their stats, only for them to be all like "but only Yang can fight barehanded!"
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Post by kaoru on Oct 3, 2018 13:32:12 GMT -5
Whenever someone just types "Devil Summoner 2", I'm not sure if they mean Soul Hackers or Raidou Kuzunoha vs King Abbadon.
The same when someone types Final Fantasy II/III but means IV/VI, usually to pretentiously show you that they are around since the SNES release, despite the two games being labeled right and the real II and III around in the West for almost 20 years among tons of re-releases by now.
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Post by moran on Oct 3, 2018 13:34:57 GMT -5
Metal Gear. Oh, boy. When you say Metal Gear to Metal Gear fan, they automatically think "Solid", not the MSX/NES 8-bit game. Ditto for the MSX-only sequel, it gets easily mistaken for MGS2. And let's not even get started on the name issues surrounding Ghost Babel. Lets not forget Snake’ Revenge
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Post by kingmike on Oct 4, 2018 0:52:17 GMT -5
The same when someone types Final Fantasy II/III but means IV/VI, usually to pretentiously show you that they are around since the SNES release, despite the two games being labeled right and the real II and III around in the West for almost 20 years among tons of re-releases by now. I have not heard of anybody doing that, aside from the Wii Virtual Console and SNES Mini. (an oddity, as even Nintendo calls SMB: The Lost Levels by its official western name, even when the ingame title screen is not changed)
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Post by ResidentTsundere on Oct 4, 2018 2:19:27 GMT -5
Every time I think about Times of Lore or Lands of Lore, I have to double-check my memory to make sure I'm thinking of the right one. Also, Bust-a-move and Bust-a-Groove tripped me up for awhile, not helped by Bust-a-Groove actually being called Bust-a-Move in Japan. And then there's the hilariously convoluted Wonder Boy/Monster World/Adventure Island thing. I still have to puzzle out Bust-a-move and Bust-a-Groove without getting them confused. :/ I'm new to Wonder Boy/Monster World, but I agree about the titles being confusing, at least with the first two games (Wonder Boy in Monster Land and the sequel, Wonder Boy in Monster World).
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Post by phediuk on Oct 4, 2018 9:26:41 GMT -5
Every time I think about Times of Lore or Lands of Lore, I have to double-check my memory to make sure I'm thinking of the right one. Also, Bust-a-move and Bust-a-Groove tripped me up for awhile, not helped by Bust-a-Groove actually being called Bust-a-Move in Japan. And then there's the hilariously convoluted Wonder Boy/Monster World/Adventure Island thing. I still have to puzzle out Bust-a-move and Bust-a-Groove without getting them confused. :/ I'm new to Wonder Boy/Monster World, but I agree about the titles being confusing, at least with the first two games (Wonder Boy in Monster Land and the sequel, Wonder Boy in Monster World). Those aren't the first two. First is Wonder Boy/Adventure Island/Revenge of Drancon (note also the remake titled Wonder Boy Returns), then Wonder Boy in Monster Land/Wonder Boy:Monster World/Saiyuki World/Bikkuriman World/ Mônica no Castelo do Dragão, then Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair (or just "Monster Lair"), then Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap/Wonder Boy 4: Monster World 2/Monster World II: Dragon no Wana/Adventure Island/Dragon's Curse/Turma da Mônica em o Resgate (note also the remake titled simply Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap), then Wonder Boy in Monster World/Wonder Boy 5: Monster World 3/The Dynastic Hero/Turma da Mônica na Terra Dos Monstros, then Monster World 4. And don't confuse any of those with Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom, the upcoming not-sequel from the original creators.
I might still be missing a couple of titles there.
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Post by dsparil on Oct 4, 2018 12:45:54 GMT -5
Every time I think about Times of Lore or Lands of Lore, I have to double-check my memory to make sure I'm thinking of the right one. Also, Bust-a-move and Bust-a-Groove tripped me up for awhile, not helped by Bust-a-Groove actually being called Bust-a-Move in Japan. And then there's the hilariously convoluted Wonder Boy/Monster World/Adventure Island thing. I still have to puzzle out Bust-a-move and Bust-a-Groove without getting them confused. :/ I'm new to Wonder Boy/Monster World, but I agree about the titles being confusing, at least with the first two games (Wonder Boy in Monster Land and the sequel, Wonder Boy in Monster World). Wonder Boy is a great example of a series that's hard to keep straight. Part of the problem is that the games came out in a different order outside of Japan and sometimes with different titles. Wonder Boy - Simple enough being the first game. Wonder Boy in Monster Land - This is where things start to get slightly confusing. The arcade game came out in Japan under this title, but the home release was called Super Wonder Boy in Monster World as the Monster Land name was already being used by WaiWai Monster Land for Epoch's obscure Super Cassette Vision system. So, this is the first Monster World game. Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair - This is the original WBIII as it's the third Japanese game. It's also not a Monster World game. This also came out fourth outside of Japan as a TG16 and Genesis game. The TG16 game is simply Monster Lair. Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap - The third game outside of Japan and the fourth in Japan where it's Monster World II without Wonder Boy in the title. The European version lacks a numeral and the TG16 version is simply The Dragon's Curse. Wonder Boy in Monster World - The fifth game everywhere and the third Monster World game, but the first to use the MW name outside of Japan where it's WBV: MWIII. The TG16 version is The Dynastic Hero and was given a separate Wii VC release for some reason. Monster World IV - This was Japan-only until 2012. Wonder Boy isn't in this game. It mainly has development continuity. Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom - This is developed by the French company Game Atelier. Originally, this was Flying Hamster II: Knight of the Golden Seed. The first one is an excellent hori shmup that's pretty cute and totally unrelated aside from the hamster. At some point the title and main character were changed to Monster Boy and the Wizard of Booze only to have the title change again and also gain the support of WB's creator who considers it an official part of the series. He's not heavily involved though. Sega owns the actual name Wonder Boy but in a weird twist is also involved in publishing the physical release! That's just the main branch. Westone owned all the rights expect for the names themselves so there's three related series. Monster Land, Dragon's Trap and WB in MW were released with the Monica's Gang (Turma da Mônica) license in Brazil. My understanding is that differences are largely cosmetic and the gameplay is the same. The original Wonder Boy was ported to the NES as Adventure Island which subsequent went on for two more similarly styled NES games, a SNES remake as Super Adventure Island and since everything WB related has to be confusing, a completely original Super Adventure Island II. Finally, Monster Land was ported to the NES by Jaleco as a Journey to the West game starring Son Goku. The not WB related sequel to this game was then released in the US as the stereotypically Native American themed Whomp 'Em!
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Post by ResidentTsundere on Oct 6, 2018 2:39:07 GMT -5
Holy cow. I didn't know that the series' continuity (?) was that confusing.
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