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Post by Atma on Nov 1, 2009 20:44:48 GMT -5
If you've been banned, it's extremely bad form to try to force your way back in without discussing anything beforehand, no matter what the circumstances are. If you're banned, it's because you did something that pissed us off, and walking right back in will only anger us more than if you talk first, which is why I'm upset about this right now and keeping the ban without hearing anything from him right now. This is a very huge thing to fuck up.
Have some common sense, dudes.
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Post by Smithee on Nov 1, 2009 20:54:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I supposed I've learned that lesson before. When you put it that way it makes all the more sense, actually. The biggest thing that I have a problem with as far as IRC goes is that everytime I fuck up I feel like it builds a bunch of clashingness between some of the guys there. The reasons aren't obscure or anything, it is just kinda poo when I'd rather avoid any sort of resent. I'll bring you up, Atma, as a specific example, because I found we didn't get along well at all for a while. So that kinda sucks, because I never had anything against you and don't want to. Or me and Dual as well. I think Pino kinda had it against me a bit too, but y'know. I guess what I want to say is that I don't wanna take any of what I pissed you off about on IRC and bring it here, because I haven't lost all face here just yet.  Especially since you're a mod now I figured I'd get it out of the way or something. "That, so they say that, in ya know like, Houston or something, you'd say it's a hundred and eighty degrees, but it's a dry heat. In Houston they say that? Oh, maybe not. I'm all mixed up. Dry until they hit the swimming pool." ^ |__ I'm confused. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2009 21:02:10 GMT -5
Bans for some, miniature American flags for others.
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Post by neomerge on Nov 1, 2009 23:02:00 GMT -5
Well my ban was pretty unfair in the first place. I had just asked if Allensmithee would ever get unbanned and I guess you guys took it wrong. I didn't mean any harm by what I said, nor did I intentionally try to piss anyone off. And as Smithee stated I had no clue my IP had changed. It has been a long time since I have even tried to see if I had been unbanned. It really hurts me that you have been holding a grudge about me all this time. I have proven since I've been banned that I'm a quality poster. I haven't stirred anyone up for over a year now.
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Post by kitten on Nov 2, 2009 17:48:37 GMT -5
It really hurts me that you have been holding a grudge about me all this time. If you're going to be a whiny idiot and use asinine logic that tries to pin blame on us for holding a nonexistent grudge against you, you can stay banned forever. Acting like the victim when most of the IRC, not just the moderators, agreed upon your ban only makes you subject to deserved ridicule and an extension of your time away from the rest of us. |
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Post by Smithee on Nov 2, 2009 19:24:08 GMT -5
Ahaha, I sure hope that doesn't go for me as well.
[whistle]doo doo doo[/whistle]
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2009 20:57:19 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I'm probably risking up stirring more shit by asking this, but it's a conundrum that's kind of been perplexing me on this issue. Neo, if you feel that the mods of the IRC haven't been fair to you and that you are honestly displeased at what's happened, then why the hell do you still want back in?
There are better things out there on which to spend your time than attempting to get back into an IRC channel that, sorry to be frank here, doesn't appreciate your presence. Just forget about it and go by the FIDO principle here: Fuck It, Drive On.
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Post by neomerge on Nov 3, 2009 0:03:27 GMT -5
Acting like the victim when most of the IRC, not just the moderators, agreed upon your ban only makes you subject to deserved ridicule and an extension of your time away from the rest of us. Don't believe one bit. I'm sorry, I'm probably risking up stirring more shit by asking this, but it's a conundrum that's kind of been perplexing me on this issue. Neo, if you feel that the mods of the IRC haven't been fair to you and that you are honestly displeased at what's happened, then why the hell do you still want back in? There are better things out there on which to spend your time than attempting to get back into an IRC channel that, sorry to be frank here, doesn't appreciate your presence. Just forget about it and go by the FIDO principle here: Fuck It, Drive On. You have great points. But, I just don't believe in injustice. I want to solve this problem once and for all. Look at it this way, how would you feel if one of the other Admins here had the power to ban you because they didn't like your views on a particular subject? I had a lot of fun chatting in the channel prior to the ban. I'm sure you've had a lot of fun posting on this forum. Now you may just move on, but wouldn't you want to solve the problem and return on a good note? Maybe its just my upbringing but I just want to be forgiven and let back in. I'm sorry I questioned authority. Next time I won't question the channel Admin's motives if they ban someone. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 0:11:39 GMT -5
Being banned from just one IRC channel out of the many chatrooms out there isn't really an injustice worth obsessing over. Now, if I were on the wrong end of a great injustice, say... if I was one of the many ripped off by Bernie Madoff and I lost a lot of my finances, I would sure as hell want that injustice to be repaid due to the massive financial loss on the line.
What is really at stake here if this matter is not resolved? All that happens is that you can't get back into the IRC channel, and regardless of how much that in itself might mean to you, that's worth next to nothing in the overall scheme of life. You're not in any great jeopardy if you walk away from it; just cut your losses and move on. Not everything you set out to resolve will end as you want it to, and it's best you learn that now with so little to lose when it could happen again over something more serious.
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Post by kitten on Nov 3, 2009 5:25:17 GMT -5
You're free to believe what you want, but leave your bitchy drama out of this thread. You're not getting back in, end of story. |
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Post by Smithee on Nov 3, 2009 14:43:20 GMT -5
Being banned from just one IRC channel out of the many chatrooms out there isn't really an injustice worth obsessing over. What is really at stake here if this matter is not resolved? All that happens is that you can't get back into the IRC channel, and regardless of how much that in itself might mean to you, that's worth next to nothing in the overall scheme of life. You're not in any great jeopardy if you walk away from it; just cut your losses and move on. Not everything you set out to resolve will end as you want it to, and it's best you learn that now with so little to lose when it could happen again over something more serious. That's basically how I look at it. In all honesty, yeah I took offense to being banned. The first time I shouldn't have been offended, since the decision was perfectly righteous. The second time I did take offense, but still I understood why it happened, and the reason I took offense was independent to anyone on the IRC... I was only offended of myself, if that makes any sense. So, I acted silly in response, but it really isn't worth anything to be a fuckup or whinerbaby when things don't go your way, because that'll just slow you down. Don't settle for Ford go for Formula 1, y'know? When I first got destroyed off of the channel(s) it was because I was but a young child ; a fool in a philosophers realm. So, after long talks about why I should lighten the fuck up, I really took it to heart, and strived to move beyond my childish ways of calling "ickiness" on what I thought avoiding would make me "better" than my peers. Basically, because of the debauchery around me, I thought that if I put myself above it, avoiding enjoyment or stimulation of any kind to the best of my abilities, unless I gave it some sort of arbitrary reasoning that somehow excused it from my list of "do nots". Somehow among this, I developed a sort of complex, thinking of myself as a savior to the people around me, but I ignored them because they would ignore me. I honestly developed some kinda God complex, and that is terrible. So after I was banned and talked to, I first thought it was all foolishness. But then, I realized that so many things I thought were wrong hurt nobody and gave pleasure to at least one person. What is wrong with that? So I grew up, and just in time for highschool (because, believe me, had I still lived with that self-righteous attitude these last two years, I'da been killed for trying to "save" the wrong guy). A problem arose during the transformation process, because I became hypocritical and confused, but luckily I moved past this. Then though, I probably became a bit too crude for my own good. So now I'm working to get past this sailors-mouth of mine, and use proper words to develop a silver-tongue. Dialogue shall be intelligent, and topics mature. And sometimes probably not, because that stuff is fun. But lets face it, I've not reached that point yet. I've not found that balance I strive for, and I haven't perfected the art of thinking before I speak. Because, ultimately, that's what it all requires. All it takes is a little thinking. SOOOo o... That's where I stand on this, I guess. I've pretty much told the whole story from my view now, and I don't expect it to be eye opening, and even if you know me a little better, the ultimate outcome is that I'm not grown up enough just yet.  |
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Post by neomerge on Nov 3, 2009 15:06:49 GMT -5
You're free to believe what you want, but leave your bitchy drama out of this thread. You're not getting back in, end of story. bitch much? What have I really done for you to treat me like this? lol |
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Post by Atma on Nov 3, 2009 16:05:32 GMT -5
You're free to believe what you want, but leave your bitchy drama out of this thread. You're not getting back in, end of story. bitch much? What have I really done for you to treat me like this? lol Watch your mouth. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 16:13:08 GMT -5
You're free to believe what you want, but leave your bitchy drama out of this thread. You're not getting back in, end of story. bitch much? What have I really done for you to treat me like this? lol Listen up: I can only be nice up to a point, and I'm honestly doing my best to convince you that this issue is not worth pursuing. But if you're going to keep badgering Kitten and Atma, be rude to them, and not listen to my advice, then I am not going to waste any more time helping you to save face. |
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Post by neomerge on Nov 3, 2009 18:00:00 GMT -5
Listen up: I can only be nice up to a point, and I'm honestly doing my best to convince you that this issue is not worth pursuing. But if you're going to keep badgering Kitten and Atma, be rude to them, and not listen to my advice, then I am not going to waste any more time helping you to save face. I'm not badgering Atma at all. Kitten is coming after me for no reason. I've never done anything to piss her off. |
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Especially since you're a mod now I figured I'd get it out of the way or something.
