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Post by silentstorm on Jan 20, 2019 5:16:59 GMT -5
It's funny you mention Dragonball, because Kinikuman basically started off as a comedy parody much like Dragonball, albeit centred around superheroes instead of Journey to the West like Dragonball. The 1st chapter even has a bunch of American heroes shown, like a version of Spider-Man and Superman, as well as Ultraman. I think it was basically meant to be an Ultraman parody overall, as it showed him eating garlic and growing large to fight a monster, while later on it obviously became a wrestling/battle manga. It was sorta known in the mid noughties as Ultimate Muscle(Kinikuman New Generation) was airing on Cartoon Network, and an Ultimate Muscle game came out for Gamecube (In the US anyway, sadly I don't think it was released here in Australia). Once it finished it's run tho, it seemed to fade away sadly, and the series pretty much went back to japan only (I know Viz released some Ultimate Muscle chapters, but I never saw any in any Aussie comic shops) Kinikumans toys did come out in the 80s, but as the manga was never left japan, all the characters were renamed and the line itself was called M.U.S.C.L.E (it was revived recently and has he-man and aliens and stuff like that). Yep, i know, right now i have read every chapter of the original Kinnikuman series, including the ones from 2011-Onwards which i think are really good, though overall i think the series becomes better as it goes along, with a big part of it being that Suguru himself gets a lot more likeable, because, my God, there were some rough moments, including one which genuinely made me cheer for Warsman to beat him.
I haven't read anything of the New Generation, it's a lot harder to find chapters for it, nor have i seen the anime yet though, i just know it exists.
But yeah, the 2011 Kinnikuman and onwards series is pretty great and i really love how it brings back past villains and side characters that hadn't done anything in ages and having them become important and have great matches against the newer villains, just to show why in-universe they were feared or considered strong.
They even bring back the fake princes to help Suguru in a fight, even Phoenix of all people is around! |
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Post by Ace Whatever on Jan 20, 2019 7:33:13 GMT -5
To anyone familiar with Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato, if someone were new to it, what would you recommend? If you ask me, there is zero reason to watch the original first season of Yamato if you're not planning on watching the entirety of the pre-reboot continuity works. The original show is just not good by itself and is made completely obsolete by the remake. |
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Post by eatersthemanfool on Jan 21, 2019 0:25:30 GMT -5
If you want to watch a show along those lines, Starship Operators is fucking amazing.
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Post by edmonddantes on Jan 22, 2019 0:45:46 GMT -5
Yeah but "something along those lines" isn't the same as "this exact show."
Seems like since the DVDs of Star Blazers are tough to get (closest I found was a fan-edit that basically puts the dub track over the edited footage but still leaves the cut scenes in) I'm stuck with either fansubs or the remake. Since I might end up watching the entire canon I'll stick with it.
Also started reading Berserk again. Had stopped at the Lost Children arc and... not entirely sure why I started reading again unless I just really like being reminded what Hell looks like.
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Post by lurker on Jan 25, 2019 10:46:35 GMT -5
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Post by eatersthemanfool on Jan 25, 2019 22:18:22 GMT -5
Well that sure as fuck doesn't make me want to watch Steins: Gate.
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Post by edmonddantes on Jan 26, 2019 12:16:34 GMT -5
Me either, and I've actually seen Steins;Gate (tho not Donnie Darko, so I don't get the comparison there, and if the "Big Bang Theory" part is what I think its about, that's only for like a couple of episodes).
I think a coupla pages back I talked about Steins;Gate... I wound up having an okay-to-negative impression of it.
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Post by kaoru on Jan 26, 2019 14:15:33 GMT -5
Granted, Anime based on VNs are almost always Ok-ish at best. One's usually better off reading the game to begin with.
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Post by edmonddantes on Jan 27, 2019 15:45:00 GMT -5
I think the only time I liked a VN-based anime was Clannad. Ibuki Fuuko was the best thing ever (except in the official translation by Sentai Filmworks, where they botched her speech pattern--which winds up contradicting some of lines later. I wish I could somehow transplant the fansub translation onto blu-ray video. Used Google to find the first time I brought up Steins;Gate in this topic, which was here, and I vaguely remember soon after posting a bigger list of criticisms. Also, got bored of Berserk... by the mid-20s graphic novels it feels less like the manga I was hooked on and more like a standard D&D-esque fantasy. Seriously... I think Schierke is cute and all, but did we really need Isidro (who is basically Sokka from Avatar: the Last Airbender) and TWO comedy relief pixies? Puck at least early on felt like he sort of belonged, but somehow he started being the genie from Disney's Aladdin with all his pop culture references... like, i wouldn't mind this stuff in most cases, but the appeal of Berserk WAS it being one of the bleakest, cruelest things ever put to print. Sadly I haven't been hitting the anime pool as much recently... tho I might watch more Yamato. |
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Post by jorpho on Jan 30, 2019 1:09:13 GMT -5
Am I the only one who completely forgot there was a live-action adaptation of Full Metal Alchemist?
I must confess I can't recall any live-action anime adaptation that I was particularly thrilled with. Except maybe Cutie Honey; that was kind of neat. Phoenix Wright probably doesn't count.
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Post by kaoru on Jan 30, 2019 2:31:16 GMT -5
Phoenix Wright was, like quite some of the mainstream movies by Miike, pretty boring overall tbh. As is his Yakuza one. Though his Yatterman movie was fun. I also liked the 20th Century Boys trilogy and the Cutie Honey: The Live series (the movie though mostly fell flat after the first third of ist runtime). Uzumaki is also pretty cool. Mushishi wasn't half bad. Casshern is simply amazing, and I'm ready to cut a bitch that says otherwise. And lets not forget the Lone Wolf and Cub movies. I mean, for a while about every third japanese movie seemed to be a live action adaption of some anime or manga or game, and there still are a whole lot coming out to this day, so there are bound to be some good ones in there.
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Post by toei on Jan 30, 2019 3:45:46 GMT -5
I actually liked Phoenix Wright. Made me want to play the games; I bought PW2, but it wasn't very good. Yakuza was good, too, and some of the new plot threads were great (the kleptomaniac girl), but the ending sucked, just as it did in the game. The Crows Zero movies are originals based on a manga property, and the two Miike movies are excellent (especially the first). Even As the Gods Will was cool, and that's almost entirely because his sense of humor rescues the source material, which is really tacky post-Battle Royale nonsense. His MPD Psycho mini-series had some brilliant moments, even though the story didn't make that much sense (they even poke fun of it and the manga itself in one of the later episodes).
Outside of Miike, Kinji Fukasaku's Doberman Deka (1977) was officially an adaptation of a manga, but it just ignored it and did its own thing, and it's excellent. The two Lady Snowblood movies are really good, too (though I never could get in the manga), especially the first.
I kind of liked the first Golgo 13 movie with Ken Takakura. There's a boring stretch towards the end where he just walks through the desert for a long-ass time, but the documentary style grounds it in the real world, Ken is good as always, and the pre-Revolution Iran setting is really interesting. The second movie is pretty bad, but Sonny Chiba does seem perfect for the role.
Live action adaptations of manga and movies have been frequent since at least the '60s in Japan; there are literally hundreds of them, and yeah, some of them are quite good. But in general Japanese cinema was stronger up until the end of the studio system around '79, and modern mainstream Japanese movies can be quite boring. I'd like to see the '77 Lupin movie with Yuki Meguro (whom some of you might know from the Shogun mini-series).
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Post by silentstorm on Jan 30, 2019 9:32:20 GMT -5
So, i went back and read some more of the Cromartie High School sequel and it seems Mechazawa has become quite important in the school! Good for him, it's nice to see he went from a perfectly normal human delinquent into the Principal of his old school.
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Post by Snake on Jan 30, 2019 12:45:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one who completely forgot there was a live-action adaptation of Full Metal Alchemist? I saw it. Didn't like it very much. It's too abridged and hokey. But still better than the Attack on Titan live-action film. Phoenix Wright/Gyakuten Saiban was a reasonable adaptation. Again, being a movie it does its best to focus the content by cutting things out, but it's an interesting and colorful portrayal of Japanese court system of the near future. A few live-action series that work consist of TV dramas. Like Hana Yori Dango/Boys Over Flowers. Instead of being a tired, dragged out manga with recycled subplots, it is quite succinct as a seasonal TV series. Plus, since it is kind of grounded in reality, it feels a lot more believable. Same for Holy Land. Action choreography for Holy Land isn't exactly sharp; but then again, we are talking about amateur high school kids engaging in mixed martial arts street fights. One live-action that I really liked was Liar Game. It's witty, theatrical, with a likeable cast. Erika Toda makes everything better. For a moment, I didn't even recognize she was in Blade of the Immortal. |
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Post by eatersthemanfool on Jan 30, 2019 22:57:32 GMT -5
Me either, and I've actually seen Steins;Gate (tho not Donnie Darko, so I don't get the comparison there, and if the "Big Bang Theory" part is what I think its about, that's only for like a couple of episodes). I think a coupla pages back I talked about Steins;Gate... I wound up having an okay-to-negative impression of it. Donnie Darko is the only one of those things I have seen. It's a pretty good movie, though it was a hell of a lot more meaningful and awe inspiring when I was 17 than it is now. It's about a kid having a near death experience and reality becoming disjointed and surreal. The Butterfly Effect was kind of a spiritual sequel to it. |
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