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Post by TheGunheart on Feb 23, 2012 22:07:37 GMT -5
Also, there's the fact that burning your potential allies really isn't a pragmatic decision.
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Post by docmarionum1 on Feb 23, 2012 22:17:13 GMT -5
Most of the humans in the Mass Effect universe are idiots. Well they were aiming for realism.
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Post by X-pert74 on Feb 23, 2012 23:01:12 GMT -5
On a different tangent, is it just me, or did Mass Effect need an additional alignment modifier? Namely, Pro-Human and Pro-Alien. Because it does seem strange that they're tied to the Paragon and Renegade alignments without anyone bothering to advertise this. So instead of being simply ruthlessly pragmatic, a full Renegade Shepard is also a human supremacist. This bothers me too. I wish Shepard could be a renegade without being racist against every other alien species.
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Post by caoslayer on Feb 24, 2012 10:53:27 GMT -5
The multiplayer is crack. I have never played so much a demo ever.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 11:44:01 GMT -5
The multiplayer is crack. I have never played so much a demo ever. Does your MP progress/stats carry over into the final game?
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Post by Warchief Onyx on Feb 24, 2012 12:56:05 GMT -5
I just took the neutral or even friendlier options when my renegade Shepard (who was not racist) didn't want to be racist. Paragon/Renegade meters weren't zero sum like Light Side/Dark Side in KOTOR so getting a few paragon points here and there wasn't such a big deal.
The one part where it did annoy me was in ME2 where near endgame if you didn't have enough of one it could hurt loyalty by endgame.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 13:06:27 GMT -5
I just took the neutral or even friendlier options when my renegade Shepard (who was not racist) didn't want to be racist. Paragon/Renegade meters weren't zero sum like Light Side/Dark Side in KOTOR so getting a few paragon points here and there wasn't such a big deal. The one part where it did annoy me was in ME2 where near endgame if you didn't have enough of one it could hurt loyalty by endgame. Yeah. I had to replay endgame three times because Miss Thang, I mean Miranda stopped being loyal because I wasn't 100 percent paragon, and I took Jack's side in an argument. Not that I cared when she croaked (uppity, self-absorbed bitch), but I needed that achievement.
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Post by caoslayer on Feb 24, 2012 14:17:44 GMT -5
The multiplayer is crack. I have never played so much a demo ever. Does your MP progress/stats carry over into the final game? No clue. I would be nice, since the worst thing of the multiplayer is that everything is randomized, you unlock new races-classes/weapons/upgrades by buying booster packs (using ingame currency) not unlike card games.
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Post by Sketcz-1000 on Feb 25, 2012 7:56:26 GMT -5
www.pcworld.com/article/250546/controversial_day1_mass_effect_3_dlc_prompts_calls_to_boycott.htmlWe should boycott ME3. I don't care what anyone says. They are deliberately screwing fans over with this, and buying the game and DLC on day one is just encouraging this kind of behaviour. This kind of content is not just something they tossed together after the fact. It's calculated money gouging. It's all well and good for people to say: well capitalism is all about corporations trying to make more profit. But the thing is: being a consumer is all about getting the best possible deal for yourself, and not being screwed over by the corporations. This tug of war goes both ways. And right now Bioware and EA are screwing us royally.
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Post by megatronbison on Feb 25, 2012 8:22:20 GMT -5
Oh I won't be buying it after that. I'm pretty certain it will have an unsatisfying conclusion anyways so I doubt I'll miss much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2012 8:26:34 GMT -5
While day-one DLC sucks, it doesn't seem any different from just about any other game this generation - if anything this is just accelerating the inevitable.
Also I need to see Tali's face.
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Post by megatronbison on Feb 25, 2012 8:41:24 GMT -5
Haha I will admit that for some reason I want to see that too As soon as we get to day one DLC as standard it's time to go back and catch up on my Saturn and PS2 backlog I sure am getting tired of cover shooters anyways
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2012 8:50:19 GMT -5
Haha I will admit that for some reason I want to see that too As soon as we get to day one DLC as standard it's time to go back and catch up on my Saturn and PS2 backlog I sure am getting tired of cover shooters anyways Actually now that I think of it we could just look it up on the internet and save ourselves the money... But yeah, while I'm still going to get the game I respect anyone's decision to not buy it or boycott it on the basis of the DLC "surprise" they laid down. Although they may have developed this after the game was submitted for review, it's still "too soon" and makes it look like a bad faith action on their part. I'm trying to remember how long it was until the Kasumi DLC was released, but it was at least a month or so after the game came out... BTW I hear you about the backlog. I need to get on some DS rpgs sometime soon.
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Post by docmarionum1 on Feb 25, 2012 10:51:16 GMT -5
But the thing is: being a consumer is all about getting the best possible deal for yourself, and not being screwed over by the corporations. Getting the best possible deal or getting a game when the asking price is worth it for what you're getting. If it were the former, we would never buy anything until ten years later when we could get it for $5. The content would be the same, so it's clearly a better value for your money buy waiting until it hits the lowest price that you think it will. But does anyone really doubt that Mass Effect 3 will not be worth their money out of the box? Does the lack of this one piece of content make you think the game will neither be fun nor full of content? If it does, then yes, I would say that you should "boycott" (aka: wait to the buy) game. But I don't know how anyone who is a fan of the first two games could think that they will get less value and enjoyment out of Mass Effect 3 sans From Ashes than they will out of a lot of the mediocre games that they'll shell out full price for. The only think that I can say makes any bit of sense is canceling preorders. By preordering a game, you are committing to buy it based on speculated value. Since this news might make you less certain about the final value, you might not be as sure that it will be worth it. But in that case, you would just wait to hear reviews and feedback on the final game before buying - not outright boycotting it entirely.
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Post by Warchief Onyx on Feb 25, 2012 11:13:10 GMT -5
I have my game preordered and I also plan on buying the DLC whenever I can (probably after I beat the game the first time and save the extras for a replay). Anyone that's got a problem with it can go fuck themselves.
Also if this goes the way of other internet "boycotts," most of these entitled, whiny little cunts will be buying it and the DLC day one (see: Modern Warfare 2's "boycott"). With the other group, they were not that interested in the game to begin with and "boycotting" just makes them look like Internet Heroes.
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