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Post by Ryusui on Apr 5, 2012 13:04:45 GMT -5
The point is that we don't need a "happy" ending; we just want one that makes some freaking sense.
That's what Mass Effect 3's ending is like at present. All of them.
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Post by Gendo Ikari on Apr 5, 2012 13:30:58 GMT -5
I understand regarding ME3's ending; my reasoning is about the consequences beyond the ME franchise itself.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2012 14:11:53 GMT -5
I am enjoying it and like I said before the ending could be a link to a youtube video of a fat guy falling off a bike and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Don't really care about endings in game in the least. Having said that, I'm pleased for all the whiny babies that will get their ending! Now hopefully they can find some meaning in spending $60 and 40 hours of their lives on this. Mass Effect is entirely about plot and characters. The shooting is just a method of breaking up all of the conversations and cut scenes. If story and emotions don't mean anything to you, why would you even play the game? That would be like me saying I don't give a shit about high scores, but I'm going to work on getting a kill screen for Pac Man. |
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Post by TheGunheart on Apr 5, 2012 14:40:28 GMT -5
I understand regarding ME3's ending; my reasoning is about the consequences beyond the ME franchise itself. For what it's worth, they did outright lie about it just two months before release. Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.
It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them. It would be interesting to see if somebody could put together a chart for that. Even with Mass Effect 2’s...It's not like with Peter Molyneux promising all these crazy things during the announcement that turned out to be impossible as they approached release day; this was posted 01/10/12, well after most of the development had wrapped up. |
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Post by kal on Apr 5, 2012 19:30:40 GMT -5
And now they're releasing Epilogue DLC. Which I guess means it's not like other games, it joins the illustrious company of Prince of Persia having DLC that might well be 100% crucial to the plot.
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Post by kyouki on Apr 5, 2012 21:59:34 GMT -5
I am enjoying it and like I said before the ending could be a link to a youtube video of a fat guy falling off a bike and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Don't really care about endings in game in the least. Having said that, I'm pleased for all the whiny babies that will get their ending! Now hopefully they can find some meaning in spending $60 and 40 hours of their lives on this. Mass Effect is entirely about plot and characters. The shooting is just a method of breaking up all of the conversations and cut scenes. If story and emotions don't mean anything to you, why would you even play the game? That would be like me saying I don't give a shit about high scores, but I'm going to work on getting a kill screen for Pac Man. You misunderstood me, I care alot (well as much as I can about video games) about the characters and story in ME. For me it is a decent shooter with fun character interaction, the kind of character interaction I wished JRPGs had back during the 16bit days. I just don't care about the movie clip that plays in the end. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 5:28:36 GMT -5
I guess that's just as confusing. If the resolution doesn't mean anything to you, how could everything beforehand matter?
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Post by caoslayer on Apr 6, 2012 7:41:20 GMT -5
Because the journey is fun... And everyone here should be used to awful videogame endings by now...
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Post by caoslayer on Apr 6, 2012 13:35:15 GMT -5
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Post by Sac (a.k.a Icaras) on Apr 6, 2012 23:18:37 GMT -5
Because the journey is fun... And everyone here should be used to awful videogame endings by now... As I've come to learn from both this thread and others. People don't care about the ending itself. They care about the lack of effect their choices had on the ending. The games were sold as "your choices matter!" and that was a big selling point. People then found they were, essentially, lied to. Many years waiting, many hours of game play, many dollars spent...its a bit of an investment for the poor ME3 players to discover. When you think of it that way, you start to see threads like this in a different light. (And yeah, i'm sure these points have been repeated many times at earlier points in the thread. But it's a BIG THREAD!  ) |
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Post by X-pert74 on Apr 6, 2012 23:54:17 GMT -5
Well, I personally would want a happier ending for Mass Effect 3.
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Post by TheGunheart on Apr 7, 2012 0:06:06 GMT -5
Some of my favorite endings are of the bittersweet type. My problem is that this ending isn't really, well, anything. It doesn't even really feel artistically ambiguous, just empty.
I dare say the conclusion of the original Japanese version of Mother was more satisfying.
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Post by X-pert74 on Apr 7, 2012 0:48:35 GMT -5
You could say that this ending was bullshit  I like some bittersweet endings, but something like Mass Effect 3's ending just feels really cheap to me. It feels like a total cop-out of making a decent ending. Some of the theories I've read regarding it make it seem less horrible, but it was still not executed well, and it doesn't take into account all of the stuff that you've done over the three games. |
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Post by caoslayer on Apr 7, 2012 3:24:21 GMT -5
Because the journey is fun... And everyone here should be used to awful videogame endings by now... As I've come to learn from both this thread and others. People don't care about the ending itself. They care about the lack of effect their choices had on the ending. The games were sold as "your choices matter!" and that was a big selling point. People then found they were, essentially, lied to. Many years waiting, many hours of game play, many dollars spent...its a bit of an investment for the poor ME3 players to discover. When you think of it that way, you start to see threads like this in a different light. (And yeah, i'm sure these points have been repeated many times at earlier points in the thread. But it's a BIG THREAD! ) Well, while the impact of your choices in the ending were near non-existent indeed, is not the same for the rest of the game. LOTS, hundred of things you did in mass effect 1 and 2 counted directly and whole plots are rewritten, The game is huge in content but sadly is content locked unless you spend several hours getting back and setting it. I wish it had a comic like the ME2 one. For me, the ending of ME3 is the whole game, not the last 10 minutes. Specially because I was waiting a "buy ME4" ending... Im still disappointed of no talking Harbinger, through. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 7:09:57 GMT -5
I spoiled the ending, and I'm not yet at the end sequence. As soon as I get to Earth I'm stopping my game, because I really don't want to have to play through the end sequence again after the DLC comes out in Summer or whatever.
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