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Post by Snarboo on Jul 7, 2012 10:57:45 GMT -5
It tears me up, because I love importing, but I don't want to see this game fail because of some mass boycott either. It would be more likely to fail because it's a nonstandard fighting game based on a cult RPG series than due to a consumer boycott. Fighting fans tend to be very fickle, and anime style fighting games don't seem to enjoy the success that more traditional ones do. However, I doubt it will fail given Atlus' tendency towards low prints runs. |
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Post by zellsf on Jul 7, 2012 11:07:14 GMT -5
It tears me up, because I love importing, but I don't want to see this game fail because of some mass boycott either. I just hope Atlus USA have learned their lesson from the massive backlash, and I'll leave it at that. I doubt they will learn any lesson unless the game actually does fail because of their region region locking decisions. Words don't really mean that much on the internet  |
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Post by cj iwakura on Jul 7, 2012 11:12:35 GMT -5
It tears me up, because I love importing, but I don't want to see this game fail because of some mass boycott either. It would be more likely to fail because it's a nonstandard fighting game based on a cult RPG series than due to a consumer boycott. Fighting fans tend to be very fickle, and anime style fighting games don't seem to enjoy the success that more traditional ones do. However, I doubt it will fail given Atlus' tendency towards low prints runs. It's a high quality fighting game made by Arc System Works, with a huge story mode penned by Atlus at that. Half the reason I'm getting this is because it's a great fighting game. The other half is because I want to see what happens with Elizab-... the P4 cast. |
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Post by Snarboo on Jul 7, 2012 11:25:45 GMT -5
It's a high quality fighting game made by Arc System Works, with a huge story mode penned by Atlus at that. I'm not disputing that, I'm sure it will have a dedicated fan base, but it strikes me as a niche fighting much in the same way Blaz Blue and Arcana Heart does. I don't see this game having much EVO cred, but whether that's a good or bad thing I'll let you decide. |
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Post by cj iwakura on Jul 7, 2012 13:55:48 GMT -5
Well, I hear it's been a hit in JP arcades, and it's being sidestreamed at Evo by James Xie. Hopefully it'll get an official tourney next year, might be too late though.
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Post by LouieBee on Jul 7, 2012 15:03:42 GMT -5
Wasn't Armoured Core V region-locked in the same manner P4 Arena will be? I tried playing online with some American buddies and found out the hard way that it simply wasn't possible about a month or so ago.
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Post by zellsf on Jul 7, 2012 15:08:05 GMT -5
No, this is region locking the game itself. A US copy of the game won't start on a EU console, so that we can't access the US online service is the least of our worries.
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Post by Allie on Jul 7, 2012 19:45:10 GMT -5
It tears me up, because I love importing, but I don't want to see this game fail because of some mass boycott either. I just hope Atlus USA have learned their lesson from the massive backlash, and I'll leave it at that. I still feel like it's a problem that everyone is letting Zen skate scot-free on this. |
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Post by X-pert74 on Jul 7, 2012 19:52:19 GMT -5
I usually hate region-locking, but this particular situation doesn't bother me. It'll be available in every region, and with all of the same content.
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Post by zellsf on Jul 7, 2012 20:55:32 GMT -5
It tears me up, because I love importing, but I don't want to see this game fail because of some mass boycott either. I just hope Atlus USA have learned their lesson from the massive backlash, and I'll leave it at that. I still feel like it's a problem that everyone is letting Zen skate scot-free on this. It's Atlus' decision. If Zen weren't informed of this before licensing the game, they might very well be the victim here. Because they're not walking off scot-free, all those angry people saying they won't buy the game now? They're mostly Europeans. |
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Post by roushimsx on Jul 7, 2012 21:11:27 GMT -5
Good ol' fair weathered fans that will later bemoan the lack of releases in their territories despite the fact that when they did have the option to buy the games they would like, they boycotted them.
I have an idea, let's boycott the next release of Yakuza if it doesn't include hostess bars and boycott the next People Can Fly game if it doesn't have multiplayer. Maybe we can think up of a reason to boycott the PSN release of Suikoden II when it finally gets announced. Maybe it doesn't work on the Vita or maybe it doesn't come with the instructions. You know it'll be region locked. Those are pretty good reasons to boycott!
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Post by zellsf on Jul 7, 2012 21:24:54 GMT -5
Good ol' fair weathered fans that will later bemoan the lack of releases in their territories despite the fact that when they did have the option to buy the games they would like, they boycotted them. No, we always buy the games we like when they are released here. This is a very special case, if you're not interested enough to read up on why, take that condescending attitude elsewhere. |
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Post by Super Orbus on Jul 7, 2012 23:52:23 GMT -5
So I don't think that this has been covered here, but Atlus is attributing the reason for the region-locking to the near-simultaneous release in North America and Japan. Apparently there is a concern about cheaper American copies of the game cannibalizing Japanese sales due to the current values of the Yen and the Dollar. This is something I hadn't considered, and actually makes a lot of sense. The US release is going to be dual language too, which only adds to the concern. I'm not sure how fine-grained PS3 region locking is. I suppose they could have blocked Japan and allowed Europe (360 has dual-region games I know), but with the European release coming soon anyway, they probably figured may as well block that too. You can read their statement over at Siliconera. |
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Post by zellsf on Jul 8, 2012 0:55:00 GMT -5
That was already covered, and I wouldn't be so sure it's coming to Europe soon.
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Post by Sketcz-1000 on Jul 8, 2012 2:17:15 GMT -5
I'm sorry to unload you Roushimsx, but I spent yesterday reading through NeoGAF and ATLUS' own forum, and the amount of - what I can only describe as WHITE KNIGHTING for a corporation - disturbed me no end. I felt I'd fallen into the twilight zone. So this post is meant really for the other forum posters around the internet, who raised the "fair weather fans" argument. Good ol' fair weathered fans I dislike this statement greatly. ATLUS are a company, they exist to make money by producing products that people want to buy. They're not my friend. This isn't a marriage to a spouse who suddenly got sick and I need to stick by her until better times roll by. This is a company hawking a product. Nobody owes them anything. If they make bad business decisions or try to sell garbage, then no one, absolutely noe one, should feel obligated to give them money just because, you know, they're our special friend who we need to help. If a company can't sort out its own problems without screwing the consumer over, then the consumer should let them die. This isn't like some struggling lone bedroom coders who make a really neat game and we're all online on our blogs saying people should buy their DRM free game instead of pirating it - that's an example of supporting someone because they're human beings, and they're doing the right thing. ATLUS is a grey behemoth which is actively trying to benefit from globalisation and make a profit by selling a product while basically screwing people over. They do not deserve our sympathy, they do not deserve anyone's defending of them, and they sure as hell do not deserve anyone's money. |
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