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Post by moran on Nov 29, 2015 11:43:31 GMT -5
There's a Demon Souls remaster coming? And Bloodborne is a fantastic game, although rather niche. It was a system seller for me though.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Nov 29, 2015 11:53:44 GMT -5
Doesn't Virtua Fighter have no story whatsoever? It's in the manuals. For the most part Kage is the central character, while Sarah vs Jacky is the other major story. Visual novels. A lot of them...Just aren't very good (then again, this is partially due just to the sheer quantity of them out there plus Sturgeon's Law). And even the Western developers of them seem too eager to crudely ape anime-styled art when there's room for more possibility than that. It's like otaku making otaku food for other otaku. I guess movie trumps novel considering Telltale and Quantic Dream stuff are more mainstream. A shame, I think there could be some wiggle room for Western developers to try Visual Novel format. But I guess point and click adventures have some overlap.
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Post by JDarkside on Nov 29, 2015 13:14:16 GMT -5
Visual novels are sadly a very restrictive genre by culture. Everyone is mainly focused on one or two particular types of stories because that seems to be the only genre it can work. But there are gems out there if you're willing to look, including ones that play around with mechanics, common tropes, and even general story structure. But because they never got to that same level of popularity as other story heavy genres, there aren't many significantly sized studios willing to experiment with them outside Japan.
And Japanese VNs aren't all porn, we just rarely get the really interesting stuff. We mainly get games that attract Fate or Key Works fans because they're the most rabid, or ones that hadd popular anime adaptations. Muv-Luv and Grisaia are weird exceptions to the rule. Stuff like 999 and Phoenix Wright are kind of amazing in that they exist at all.
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Post by hummy on Nov 29, 2015 14:09:47 GMT -5
Everyone is mainly focused on one or two particular types of stories because that seems to be the only genre it can work. Could you elaborate a bit on which two story categories there are for most visual novels? My knowledge of them only really extends to the Ace Attorney series and a small dev's film noir-esque work ( which is on Steam Greenlight if anyone's curious), so I'm not too familiar with them myself.
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Post by Maciej Miszczyk on Nov 29, 2015 15:32:38 GMT -5
Tch, all I have to say about fighting games is that in my experience, I played one fighting game, I played them all; nothing more nothing less. fighting games are kinda like shmups in this regard: the differences between them are seemingly minor but because the games don't have too many mechanics and rely heavily on technical skill, they matter a lot more than they would in different genres (especially the ones that are maximalist as opposed to streamlined - computer RPGs for example).
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Post by JDarkside on Nov 29, 2015 17:22:08 GMT -5
Everyone is mainly focused on one or two particular types of stories because that seems to be the only genre it can work. Could you elaborate a bit on which two story categories there are for most visual novels? My knowledge of them only really extends to the Ace Attorney series and a small dev's film noir-esque work ( which is on Steam Greenlight if anyone's curious), so I'm not too familiar with them myself. Mostly dating sims and the like. Even games outside the hard genre like that still use VN elements, like Persona 3 and 4.
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Post by GamerL on Nov 29, 2015 19:18:48 GMT -5
No, I admit I'm not an expert Street Fighter lore, I know the third game has something to do with the Illuminati, but I thought it all pretty much boiled down to "Bison is a bad guy, go kick the shit out of him." BUT WHAT IS HE EVEN TRYING TO DO!? Is he trying to take over the world?
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Post by Threads on Nov 29, 2015 20:50:08 GMT -5
As a huge horror fan I've never seen the appeal of Dead Space. By all means it isn't a bad game but some people acted like it was the saving grace of the genre in video games when it wasn't all that different than the horror-action (with emphasis on action) hybrid that started to become more prevalent with Resident Evil 4.
The game also felt really repetitive with locations and such which probably didn't help things on my end. I'll have to go back to it someday as I own it and both sequels across my PC and consoles.
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Post by GamerL on Nov 29, 2015 21:16:33 GMT -5
As a huge horror fan I've never seen the appeal of Dead Space. By all means it isn't a bad game but some people acted like it was the saving grace of the genre in video games when it wasn't all that different than the horror-action (with emphasis on action) hybrid that started to become more prevalent with Resident Evil 4. The game also felt really repetitive with locations and such which probably didn't help things on my end. I'll have to go back to it someday as I own it and both sequels across my PC and consoles. I was not impressed by Dead Space either, however the sequel is a pretty solid game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 21:41:25 GMT -5
Dead Space 1 is basically System Shock meets Resident Evil, so presumably it appealed to the same crowd.
Also seconding Dead Space 2 being legit good. It greatly improves on the 1st game's strengths from both a story and gameplay standpoint.
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Post by X-pert74 on Nov 29, 2015 22:00:06 GMT -5
I think both Dead Space and Dead Space 2 are pretty cool, but not super amazing. 2 is probably an improvement over the first, but they're both still very much worth playing. As far as that type of game is concerned though, I prefer games like RE4, Shadows of the Damned, and The Evil Within.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I haven't played Dead Space 3, but I hear mixed things about it.
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Post by GamerL on Nov 29, 2015 22:32:32 GMT -5
I haven't played Dead Space 3 either, but I own it (on Origin though, blech ) so maybe some day I'll try it. Wasn't 3 a bit of a flop though? thus making a Dead Space 4 unlikely? that's a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 23:57:57 GMT -5
Wasn't 3 a bit of a flop though? thus making a Dead Space 4 unlikely? that's a shame. That and the events of the Awakening DLC kinda mean that any further direct action on Isaac Clarke's part would be beyond futile. I'm both pissed and kinda impressed they had the balls to actually get that bleak.
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Post by Woody Alien on Dec 4, 2015 8:29:58 GMT -5
Probsbly someone already said it, but what's the appeal of "Five Nights at Freddy's" and all related games? I thought people hated FMV games!
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Post by GamerL on Dec 4, 2015 8:34:26 GMT -5
Probsbly someone already said it, but what's the appeal of "Five Nights at Freddy's" and all related games? I thought people hated FMV games! I'm assuming it was a lot of kids' first horror game.
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