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Post by IrishNinja on Jan 18, 2018 17:57:17 GMT -5
Onimusha's a good pick, also Dead Space was good but a clear downward slope after that
likewise with Condemned: Criminal origins, i had a blast with 1 but 2 was asshceeks
i guess Zombies Ate My Neighbors fits too, if you count Ghoul Patrol
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Post by GamerL on Jan 18, 2018 18:20:29 GMT -5
I don't think it was that Onimusha was supposed by a Resident Evil game as in a prequel; just that the idea was Resident Evil with ninjas. Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. It was designed as a sort of Resident Evil spin-off game. Also, point taken on DMC! I guess I never made the connection before because it's tonally so different from the actual Resident Evil games. It's hard to imagine it was ever meant to be anything but what it is. -Tom Nope, it wasn't, his comment about Resident Evil with ninjas clearly doesn't literally mean Resident Evil with ninjas but as in a Resident Evil style game but with ninjas, not actually part of that series. I've never, ever heard that Onimusha started life as a Resident Evil game and it doesn't make any sense why it would, I mean ninjas and feudal Japan seem pretty clearly far removed from Resident Evil, what happened was a glitch in Onimusha inspired a mechanic in Devil May Cry which did start life as RE4, that's where you're getting confused, there's no direct connection between Onimusha and Resident Evil. Onimusha's a good pick, also Dead Space was good but a clear downward slope after that likewise with Condemned: Criminal origins, i had a blast with 1 but 2 was asshceeks i guess Zombies Ate My Neighbors fits too, if you count Ghoul Patrol Condemned doesn't count because as I said I consider a "series" to be something with at least 3 entries. But you are right Condemned 2 sucked, it's a pity because Condemned is basically the granddaddy of the "first person horror" genre and deserved to be a bigger thing.
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Post by wyrdwad on Jan 18, 2018 18:46:20 GMT -5
Nope, it wasn't, his comment about Resident Evil with ninjas clearly doesn't literally mean Resident Evil with ninjas but as in a Resident Evil style game but with ninjas, not actually part of that series. I've never, ever heard that Onimusha started life as a Resident Evil game and it doesn't make any sense why it would, I mean ninjas and feudal Japan seem pretty clearly far removed from Resident Evil, what happened was a glitch in Onimusha inspired a mechanic in Devil May Cry which did start life as RE4, that's where you're getting confused, there's no direct connection between Onimusha and Resident Evil. I think you're kind of splitting hairs here. If the creator says "I wanted it to be Resident Evil with ninjas," then it has a connection -- it's a spiritual sequel or spinoff, at the very least, having taken a good chunk of its inspiration (both in terms of mood and design) from the Resident Evil series. If this were another company's game, like Konami or something, then sure -- it would just be a Resident Evil homage (or ripoff). But coming from Capcom, I think it's fair to say that it's at least made of the same basic DNA. -Tom
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Post by GamerL on Jan 18, 2018 18:48:26 GMT -5
I simply don't think it was ever meant to be officially part of the Resident Evil series, that's all.
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Post by toei on Jan 18, 2018 18:59:46 GMT -5
Nope, it wasn't, his comment about Resident Evil with ninjas clearly doesn't literally mean Resident Evil with ninjas but as in a Resident Evil style game but with ninjas, not actually part of that series. I've never, ever heard that Onimusha started life as a Resident Evil game and it doesn't make any sense why it would, I mean ninjas and feudal Japan seem pretty clearly far removed from Resident Evil, what happened was a glitch in Onimusha inspired a mechanic in Devil May Cry which did start life as RE4, that's where you're getting confused, there's no direct connection between Onimusha and Resident Evil. I think you're kind of splitting hairs here. If the creator says "I wanted it to be Resident Evil with ninjas," then it has a connection -- it's a spiritual sequel or spinoff, at the very least, having taken a good chunk of its inspiration (both in terms of mood and design) from the Resident Evil series. If this were another company's game, like Konami or something, then sure -- it would just be a Resident Evil homage (or ripoff). But coming from Capcom, I think it's fair to say that it's at least made of the same basic DNA. -Tom "Spiritual spin-off" is kinda stretching it, though. All that quote does is acknowledge Onimusha was partly inspired by Resident Evil, which is obvious to everyone, but not meaningful in the context of establishing a connection. Literally everything is inspired by something. I think I've heard rumors that it was supposed to be a RE at some point too, but I have no evidence.
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Post by Bobinator on Jan 18, 2018 19:04:33 GMT -5
Of the two 3D Gauntlet titles I prefer Gauntlet Legends over its sequel/remake, Gauntlet: Dark Legacy. Mainly it comes down to music preferences between the levels they share (not a fan of DL's use of guitars in one of the castle levels and Legends, I feel, has the better version of the Desecrated Temple theme). Also, I like how you can turn the powerups on and off in Legends, which is lost in the jump to Dark Legacy. You can toggle them in Dark Legacy, at least in the Gamecube version.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Jan 18, 2018 19:12:04 GMT -5
I like all the Onimusha entries. I think Onimusha 2 is as good as the first. But the first has the best atmosphere and horror tone. In contrast the last entry, Dawn of Dreams, is more like a Shonen manga story.
Anyways,I think Crazy Taxi is my pick. I like the original city and driver cast the most. 3 is too safe and is carried by having the previous entry cities, while the original plans would have had Day/Night cycles and multiplayer. The series went on to go mobile, as the last game is a clicker sim game. Disappointed by that.
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Post by lurker on Jan 18, 2018 19:17:39 GMT -5
Of the two 3D Gauntlet titles I prefer Gauntlet Legends over its sequel/remake, Gauntlet: Dark Legacy. Mainly it comes down to music preferences between the levels they share (not a fan of DL's use of guitars in one of the castle levels and Legends, I feel, has the better version of the Desecrated Temple theme). Also, I like how you can turn the powerups on and off in Legends, which is lost in the jump to Dark Legacy. You can toggle them in Dark Legacy, at least in the Gamecube version. I had the PS2 so I unfortunately couldn’t, though I wonder why they did it that way.
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Post by moran on Jan 18, 2018 19:29:59 GMT -5
Blaster Master
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Post by GamerL on Jan 18, 2018 19:32:07 GMT -5
I like all the Onimusha entries. I think Onimusha 2 is as good as the first. But the first has the best atmosphere and horror tone. In contrast the last entry, Dawn of Dreams, is more like a Shonen manga story. Thinking further about it, yeah, 2 is at least as good as 1 if not even a little better. Onimusha 2 is really good and unfairly overlooked, probably one of the more underrated games out there in fact. As for 3 it's been too long since I played it to really offer a fair opinion, but I do remember it being decent, however the Paris France setting was cheesy (though half the game was still in feudal Japan, but you played as.... Jean Reno), I mean if they wanted to bring time travel into the mix why not do the obvious thing and have the game set in modern Tokyo? Paris just seemed so random, kinda cool it's own way but odd. I also missed the gorgeous pre-rendered graphics, the 3D graphics were fine at the time but I'm sure have aged worse. I never got around to playing Dawn of Dreams at all sadly, I'd like to one day though.
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Post by wyrdwad on Jan 18, 2018 20:14:57 GMT -5
I... actually kind of hated Onimusha 2. I don't remember a lot about it, but I remember it had some kind of... buddy mechanic? And your partner character in that game was just really unlikable -- or was to me, anyway.
I never finished it, as I found it just didn't live up to the original game.
-Tom
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Post by nerdybat on Jan 18, 2018 20:22:26 GMT -5
Some obvious ones for me: For Rayman I think the first one is still the best. I would agree if it wasn't so brutally difficult - even developers admit that they designed the levels to be challenging for level designers, vastly overestimating the skill of actual players in result.
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Post by GamerL on Jan 18, 2018 20:30:48 GMT -5
I... actually kind of hated Onimusha 2. I don't remember a lot about it, but I remember it had some kind of... buddy mechanic? And your partner character in that game was just really unlikable -- or was to me, anyway. I never finished it, as I found it just didn't live up to the original game. -Tom I think it's a game you should give another try, actually.
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Post by wyrdwad on Jan 18, 2018 20:51:43 GMT -5
I think it's a game you should give another try, actually. Unlikely to happen, at this point. My backlog is full of games that take much higher priority than Onimusha 2, if only because of the tank controls. Tank controls are like, an immediate "shunt to the back of the line" thing for me these days. -Tom
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Jan 18, 2018 22:39:24 GMT -5
Zillion Alex Kidd Yoshi's Island if you can call that a series Starcraft - Except for some interface and AI updates which they didn't add to the HD release for some reason, fuck 'em Pocky & Rocky Actraiser Gargoyle's Quest even though 2 plays a bit better Alundra Baldur's Gate w/ Expansion - Not by a large margin but 2 simply had too much content and could get jarring about which kind of tone it wanted to have with unfitting party dialogue triggering now and then. Bubble Bobble Asterix SMS Wario Land Lemmings maybe
Usually though it's the 2nd or 3rd game that gets it right.
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