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Post by djnietzsche on Mar 15, 2012 21:29:45 GMT -5
There's something wrong with a game that allows you to stop random encounters and pretty much walk straight through the game to the end without any difficulty. VIII story is alright, but I cannot stand games that have enemies level up with you. 4 Heroes of Light is the same way. Why should I be punished for leveling up? The no-random encounters thing I was fine with, mostly because I hate random encounters anyway, but also because you had to work (a little) to get that ability. That said, a month ago or so I decided to replay FFVIII, being my favorite FF as a high schooler. I realized I just could not get past the horribly stupid story twist, the annoying female lead, or even the unnecessarily slow screen transitions between maps. Then I realized that a lot of FF games simply did not age well. I don't think I can really go back and enjoy pre-PS2 games like 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, or 9 again (and the PS2 ones I just out-and-out disliked from the get-go). I still love the charm of the FFVIII world, though. Rustic yet modern. You don't really see that often enough. What's the point of this story? I have no idea. As for LoD, I didn't hate it. In fact, I actually enjoyed it at the time. It's just I didn't have that feeling of it lingering with me after beating it. I thought it was ridiculous that it marketed itself as the "FF Killer," but meh, whatever. I liked looking at Meru, at least. But other than that, there wasn't really anything that left a lasting impression.
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Post by Resident Tsundere on Mar 15, 2012 21:34:26 GMT -5
I bought LoD used over 10 years ago and still haven't finished it. It's one of those game that I put on the back burner, like so many other PS1 games that I haven't gotten around to finishing yet.
The story is horribly translated, but I still enjoyed the gameplay well enough. I don't think it's one of the better PS1 RPGs, though.
I am one of those people who don't think that Mystic Quest was that bad, either. It's another game that I never finished, however. ^^'
That theme song that LoD had for the intro was fing amazing. Why wasn't all of the music that good? I don't remember a single track from the game besides that one.
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Post by susanismyalias on Mar 15, 2012 21:51:00 GMT -5
That comment was made specifically for you, actually. You've got me pegged.
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Post by The Great Klaid on Mar 15, 2012 22:05:54 GMT -5
That theme song that LoD had for the intro was fing amazing. Why wasn't all of the music that good? I don't remember a single track from the game besides that one. It still sticks with me to this day (obviously) and the music was really good in the context of the game. You make me listen to a track from it I'll go hey! that's from Shirley's area. I do remember the prison music. I got stuck in there my first time through. Retr0gamer: The strange thing is I am fully aware of your complaints and I sympathize with some of them. In a way you're right. I will always look at the game through rose tinted glasses. Everyone's guilty of it. I think the first Sonic is far far better the Sonic 2. Quackshot will always be in my top 10 games of all time. The problem is nostalgia goes so far. FFIX is a good example. It was my 2nd Final Fantasy and the very first game I bought with my own money. Now a days I think it deserves its "forgotten" status. In conclusion you have valid points, but i ignore them. It is a game I enjoy fully. I get wrapped up in the story, I get attached to the characters, and I get the shit beat out of me by the final boss. In the end that's what gaming is all about right?
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Post by X-pert74 on Mar 16, 2012 1:03:57 GMT -5
I knew I'd find one! I don't hate the game myself it's just the people that defend the game are somewhat infamous. Really? That's news to me I rarely find people who defend Mystic Quest.
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Post by retr0gamer on Mar 16, 2012 6:14:35 GMT -5
In a way you're right. I will always look at the game through rose tinted glasses. Everyone's guilty of it. Well I'm the exact opposite. I've no time for nostalgia and think that a game should stand up on it's own merits. There's nothing wrong with saying you enjoyed a game when you were younger but there's also nothing wrong with saying in retrospect it might have been a bit shit. I think that type of criticism is far more accurate. Games don't suddenly get crap with time but when you look back at things with a bit more experience you can make a fairer judgement of its quality.
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Post by nickz on Mar 16, 2012 10:50:21 GMT -5
I played Legend of Dragoon back in 2009. I thought the story/characters/voice acting/dungeons/translation were generally average to bad. The additions were my favorite part, though. They made me want to continue the game no matter how cliche the plot was, not matter how nonsensical some of the bosses were, and no matter how annoying Miranda was. I thought the additions were just that cool.
I liked the additions so much that it's the game that taught me that I don't really like regular RPGs, I like Action RPGs. Since then, I've never played any RPGs that don't also test your reflexes. A couple of my favorites have been Soul Blazer and recently, Ys 3.
While Legend of Dragoon has its problems, I still like it and can certainly see why others would love it or hate it. Some other parts I liked- There's only one part (near the end of the first disc) where you really have to grind. The music is great. I thought the Virage enemies were kind of cool until they started to attack by farting. The final boss is kind of fun becuase he changes his strategy as fast as you can adapt to it. I never needed to use a guide because I never really got stuck.
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Post by retr0gamer on Mar 16, 2012 11:26:37 GMT -5
One of my major problems with the additions is that the timing is completely off on them due to the terrible battle engine framerate. The sweet spot is well before the actual visual cue because there's so much input lag. I had a lot of trouble for the first hour before I figured this out.
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Post by ves on Mar 16, 2012 14:25:07 GMT -5
So, apparently this game still holds some value on eBay and Amazon UK. Given its reception, that seems hard to believe (I never played it, so I can only go on hearsay, guess I'm lucky). Oh, and hurr, hurr, transration.
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Post by Ike on Mar 16, 2012 14:28:38 GMT -5
I tried playing LoD recently and I was trying to tweet every awkward line that I encountered. I stopped because I was spending more time typing out the lines than playing the game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 14:40:16 GMT -5
I forget who the main villain was in that thing, but his lines were abysmal. He kept saying either "goddamn" or "bastard" like every three words or something.
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Post by Wildcat on Mar 16, 2012 16:24:09 GMT -5
I'm glad to know that there's a greater controversy about Legend of Dragoon than just my college town. I haven't played it myself, but I know people on both sides of the argument, amazingly enough. Must be one of those hot topics.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 16:36:46 GMT -5
Hot in the way that Ke$ha's hot, maybe...
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Post by Resident Tsundere on Mar 16, 2012 19:37:53 GMT -5
I tried playing LoD recently and I was trying to tweet every awkward line that I encountered. I stopped because I was spending more time typing out the lines than playing the game. ROFL XD
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Post by Ace Whatever on Mar 17, 2012 11:52:30 GMT -5
Wow so much vitriol against LoD. Funny thing is, I don't think there's anything wrong with the complaints leveled against it, but I still enjoyed the time I had with it and it certainly wasn't one of my early RPGs by any stretch.
Maybe we should get a Game Club episode on it to finally bury the hatchet. If you guys don't want to completely play in the dark, I can scan the Expert Gamer issue that had the guide in it.
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