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Post by GamerL on Nov 8, 2017 19:34:59 GMT -5
I feel like everyone probably has one game that objectively may not be BAD but is certainly not something one would call great, but is nevertheless a favorite of your's.
It could solely be because of nostalgia, but for whatever reason which one is your's?
Mine would be Gex 3: Deep Cover Gecko, which is by no means an objectively great game, but it's always one I've had a lot of fondness for, I do think it's a cut above your usual 3D platformer of that era and I think Gex himself is a cut above the usual "mascot with attitude", in the advertising he may be presented as "cool" but in the games themselves he's more of a dork and Dana Gould's quips are surprisingly funny (even more so as an adult since they're jokes and references I didn't get as a kid)
But Gex 3: Deep Cover Gecko is just a game that really takes me back to 1999 and it's a game that always puts me in a good mood when I play it, sure it's nostalgia and if it's something you haven't played before it's probably not worth going out of your way to do so, but for me personally it's definitely one of my favorite PS1 games.
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Post by Amelia on Nov 8, 2017 19:48:56 GMT -5
I enjoy the first Bubsy, despite its big flaws. It was never my favorite platformer, but I liked it as a kid and still think it's alright.
Another one that comes to mind is Bart vs. The World, which is purely nostalgia. I played a ton of it back when we only owned a few NES games.
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Post by Serah on Nov 8, 2017 20:01:56 GMT -5
It actually got some good reviews at the time but history doesn't remember James Pond 3 fondly. If you've never played it or heard of it, imagine Super Mario World with a cool anti-gravity gimmick and also much worse. But it was one of my first platformers as a kid, the levels are actually huge with tons to explore, lots of secrets and hidden pathways. They're not brilliantly designed but ya know.
Evil Zone is probably the most shallow fighting game I've ever played that actually functions but the ludicrous anime cheese and spectacle of the fights themselves make it extremely enjoyable nonetheless. It was, probably rightly, panned but I still love it.
I don't know if I'd still like it but I remember enjoying the Mega Drive version of Pit Fighter a lot back in the day. I didn't completely hate Shaq Fu either. Even now I can't bring myself to truly dislike it in my heart of hearts, actually.
I have extremely fond memories of Bugs Bunny Lost in Time, to the point that I might replay it but I don't wanna ruin my childhood...
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Post by GamerL on Nov 8, 2017 21:07:48 GMT -5
Another one that comes to mind is Bart vs. The World, which is purely nostalgia. I played a ton of it back when we only owned a few NES games. Oh, how could I forget, there's also Bart's Nightmare on the SNES, which is a pretty bad game that I'd be willing to bet money is actually impossible to beat, but it's one of the first games I can distinctly remember playing with cousins as a little kid, so it's very nostalgic. It's still fun to play just for a laugh so long as you have no pretensions of getting very far. I have extremely fond memories of Bugs Bunny Lost in Time, to the point that I might replay it but I don't wanna ruin my childhood... Hey! Bugs Bunny Lost in Time is another PS1 platformer I really loved as a kid, however I'm also hesitant to revisit it in case it doesn't hold up. I last played Gex 3 recently enough (2011) to know it's still a perfectly playable game, but I haven't played Bugs Bunny Lost in Time since back in the day.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Nov 8, 2017 21:29:12 GMT -5
I feel that way with Croc, that game has tank controls so I dread the day I revisit that game.
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Post by aaa on Nov 8, 2017 22:25:36 GMT -5
Since when are PS1 3d platformers terrible? I like the 2 Gex 3d platformers and the 2 Bugs Bunny games. That Muppets game might be the best on the system. I liked the one Disney movie game about a donkey or mule, I think?
I always loved Virtual Hydlide. The Saturn was starving for adventure games early in it's life. I bought that game with the quickness. The premise was cool and I liked the cheese of it all. Liked how the main guy was just some digitized random chubby dude. It does have more chop than a karate flick. Like 5fps. If that was fixed, it would've been more well-liked.
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Post by Serah on Nov 8, 2017 22:39:48 GMT -5
Since when are PS1 3d platformers terrible? I like the 2 Gex 3d platformers and the 2 Bugs Bunny games. That Muppets game might be the best on the system. I liked the one Disney movie game about a donkey or mule, I think? I dunno about Gex but I remember Lost in Time being poorly reviewed in the gaming mags I bought back then. Bugs and Taz was much better received but I never played that one.
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Post by GamerL on Nov 8, 2017 22:50:13 GMT -5
Since when are PS1 3d platformers terrible? I like the 2 Gex 3d platformers and the 2 Bugs Bunny games. That Muppets game might be the best on the system. I liked the one Disney movie game about a donkey or mule, I think. I never said they were terrible, just maybe not all time greats. Are you thinking of Emperor's New Groove?
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Post by aaa on Nov 8, 2017 22:52:24 GMT -5
^Yeah, that's the one. Decent little romp. Aside from the mule sounding like David Spade.
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Post by GamerL on Nov 8, 2017 23:11:12 GMT -5
I think the thing about that era of platformer is they're not bad at all, but if you weren't there at the time, many of them maybe aren't worth going out of your way to play today.
The early 3D era in general has not aged as gracefully as the 8 and 16 bit era, it's fine if you played many of them at the time, as I did and I love that era of gaming, but for someone younger or even older it's harder to say this is stuff you just gotta play, know what I mean?
As far as N64/PS1 games that I'd say are still worth playing today even if it was before your time, it's pretty rare.
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Post by aaa on Nov 9, 2017 0:42:52 GMT -5
The PS1/N64 stuff is much better with emulation. Smooths out the PlayStation pixelation and de-vaselines the n64 blur. I've played alot of them in the past year.
If people can still love flat shaded, low frame rate, early 3d like Starfox, they'll be fine with PS1/N64 games.
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Post by wyrdwad on Nov 9, 2017 1:03:44 GMT -5
I enjoy the first Bubsy, despite its big flaws. It was never my favorite platformer, but I liked it as a kid and still think it's alright. High-five! The topic specifying that it should be a game you "absolutely love" is what's kind of throwing me, as there aren't many quote-unquote "bad games" I ABSOLUTELY LOVE... though there are plenty I quite like. Super Pitfall on the NES, for example, is clunky as hell, but I spent many an hour on it as a kid, and beat it legit -- and I always had fond memories of it, despite its glaring flaws. On a similar note is Friday the 13th on NES, which -- again -- I don't love, but I do quite like. One game on the NES that I do love, though, is Rygar. I would never in a million years call that anything but a VERY GOOD game, but I've heard others classify it as a bad game before, so... there you go, I guess! I definitely quite love Rygar. ...Oh! Oh! I know! Solstice! For some reason, I've heard a LOT of people call Solstice a terrible game, and I've also heard a lot of people say it's OK but impossible. I disagree with both of those viewpoints! It's absolutely one of my favorite games on the NES, full stop (possibly even my favorite, depending on when you ask me, though Goonies II might edge it out very slightly!)... and it's also the game that I've beaten from beginning to end more than any other video game. It used to be an annual tradition for me to play through Solstice in emulation, though I haven't done that for years -- but I've probably played through the whole game at least a dozen times at this point, and still have the map mostly memorized. Since I've been playing a lot of MSX lately, too, I feel I should also mention Vampire Killer, a.k.a. Castlevania. The MSX version of Castlevania is classically thought of as inferior to its NES counterpart, and by a lot of accounts, is just plain NOT GOOD. But for me... it's the best version of Castlevania 1 ever made, and one of the best games in the entire Castlevania series! I absolutely love its nonlinear approach to the stages and its unique sub-weapon system, but even more than that, I love the cruel little tricks the game designers play on you. It's a game that baits you with items or tempting pitfalls that lead only to your doom, forcing you to really pay attention to your surroundings so you can see through the many traps that have been set for you. It's also VERY heavily sub-weapon driven, with the sub-weapons often being so overpowered that they can make even the toughest boss battle a piece of cake... and yet, they're also very well-hidden, and even sometimes extremely missable if you're not careful, necessitating exploration and careful planning over twitch reflexes. Such an amazing game! Shout-out to War of the Dead 1 on MSX, also. You'll probably have to take my word for it that this is a "bad game," since I'm guessing most people reading this haven't heard of it before -- but in MSX circles, it's pretty much widely "known" that War of the Dead 1 absolutely sucks (and by some accounts is unwinnable), while War of the Dead 2 is pretty OK. I actually prefer the first game, though, "warts and all," and find myself really impressed by its look and feel. It's a true survival horror game from an era well before survival horror was even a thing, and though it's unquestionably VERY HIGHLY flawed, I still think it's an entirely worthwhile experience to play, and do rank it as one of my favorite "unsung gems" of the system. -Tom
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Post by chronotigger65 on Nov 9, 2017 2:52:09 GMT -5
Mostly nostalgia.... Bart vs. the Space Mutants and Clayfighter
Castlevania Adventure is a favorite of mine.
I enjoy the 3d Gex games too. The only 3d collectathons I can handle to 100% completion these days.
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Post by Bumpyroad on Nov 9, 2017 4:01:06 GMT -5
Spy vs Spy. Let's say the NES version. Not the worst game by any means, but i hardly 'love it'. What i do love though, are these guys:
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Post by 1upsuper on Nov 9, 2017 4:20:19 GMT -5
There are lots of "bad" games that I like but as far as games that I "absolutely love," Yoshi's Story might be appropriate, though I would wager more people would say it's a letdown than a bad game. I adore Yoshi's Story and I replay it yearly. It's definitely not as good as Yoshi's Island but I love the denim and newspaper-y backgrounds, the music, enemy designs, fruit system, and Yoshi's controls. It's one of my favorite platformers in fact.
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