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Post by zellsf on Jan 16, 2011 10:32:26 GMT -5
Uh? The reason it's those games is that it's the games they have ported already and they own all the rights too. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
I'm planning on buying it for Space Channel 5 Part 2, it'll go down in price very quickly and I would rather not rely on the PSN/XBLA version for my purchases if my console ever fails in the future when those services no longer are maintained.
acidonia: you forgot the Qubed collection. Every Extend Extra Extreme, Lumines Live and Rez HD. Not region locked either. The PS3 also has a pixeljunk collection and disc releases of Siren and Wipeout (originally digital only games).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 12:30:31 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the disc release of Siren is exclusive to Japan. I don't recall America ever getting a retail version of that game.
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Post by Ike on Jan 16, 2011 12:32:25 GMT -5
We did on PS2, not PS3.
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Post by acidonia on Jan 16, 2011 14:26:59 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the disc release of Siren is exclusive to Japan. I don't recall America ever getting a retail version of that game. A Retail version exist in Europe but like the Originaly PSN only Rachet and Clank Title (Quest for booty i think it was called) it was not available on Disc in every european Country. I think the Last Man has a Disc based version as well along with Patchwork Heros both in Japan only. Though the Publisher NISA will not bring any of their titles in Europe out on UMD anymore just on PSN same with Atlus  . But with the tons of Great XBLA games out now they could easily make collections disc of them. Not going to happen though because Microsoft are to cheap to do it. Look they discount the same XBLA games and DLC all the time instead of just giving a pernament price drop. Wonder why sega did not put Chu Chu Rocket on this? It would not take much Space up and would easily be under 100mb aliong with the fact make it a 1000gs Disc. They could also add the Extra GBA levels to it or make them DLC instead. But sega do not like money do they. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 14:34:05 GMT -5
My mistake. I should have specified that it was New Translation / Blood Curse. |
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Post by Rambo M on Jan 16, 2011 16:15:39 GMT -5
But sega do not like money do they. No, if all of Sega's recent re-releases (barring After Burner Climax, which was done in-house) are any indication, they really really hate effort, because that would presumably cost money. See also: lack of any recognition of late that the Saturn ever mattered. Sega Bass Fishing is awesome, though. |
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Post by muteKi on Jan 16, 2011 16:35:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I'd get this if only because I already have Sonic Adventure for the PC.
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Post by Snarboo on Jan 16, 2011 17:00:21 GMT -5
I'm going to be honest: I'm sick of the "Sega hates money!" sentiment that seems prevalent as of late. What are the odds that if Sega actually released, say, a comprehensive Saturn collection that it would sell more than 5 copies? Even when Sega publishes a game that is well received, such as Bayonetta, it still flounders at retail.
The reason this DC collection even exists is because all of the games on hand are popular, all of them have been or are in the process of being ported to the 360, and they are guaranteed to make money. The effort involved is minimal, yes, but if Sega put any more effort into this and tried to obey our wishes, they'd probably never make a profit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 17:26:28 GMT -5
That sounds like a defeatist attitude to me. Sega used to actually make quality titles that showed a lot of care and love on the part of the developers. They've changed so much over the years...it's like watching a family member turn into a crack addict. They could still get their shit together if they wanted to, though. They just don't give a damn. I think the public has every right to feel pissed off and cheated over something like that.
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Post by akumajobelmont on Jan 16, 2011 18:47:01 GMT -5
That sounds like a defeatist attitude to me. Sega used to actually make quality titles that showed a lot of care and love on the part of the developers. They've changed so much over the years...it's like watching a family member turn into a crack addict. They could still get their shit together if they wanted to, though. They just don't give a damn. I think the public has every right to feel pissed off and cheated over something like that. Agreed. I understand that everything in this world is driven by profit, and SEGA is just doing what everyone is doing as of late (see the Mario 25th Anniversary Wii disc). But that doesn't excuse laziness and obviously shit value for money just because it is the norm. I'm actually kinda getting sick of people defending compilations like this when, quite clearly, VFM and customer satisfaction don't even enter into the equation. Yes, it's the way the world and business works. That's life. But it doesn't make it ok. |
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Post by Snarboo on Jan 16, 2011 20:03:12 GMT -5
I'm not defending how skimpy this collection is, just that Sega is motivated by profit, especially when people claim that Sega hates money. I even said that not including Chu Chu Rocket was inexcusable. If you're not pleased with the collection as is, simply don't purchase it. Do you really think a Dreamcast collection with a bunch of obscure games that only a few people care about would sell well?
Also consider that this is only the first collection and is probably meant to gauge people's reactions to it.
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Post by akumajobelmont on Jan 16, 2011 20:59:20 GMT -5
I'm not defending how skimpy this collection is, just that Sega is motivated by profit, especially when people claim that Sega hates money. I even said that not including Chu Chu Rocket was inexcusable. If you're not pleased with the collection as is, simply don't purchase it. Do you really think a Dreamcast collection with a bunch of obscure games that only a few people care about would sell well? Also consider that this is only the first collection and is probably meant to gauge people's reactions to it. Fair enough. Also, my comment wasn't directed toward you man  It was more a general thing. Not quite sure if I've heard that Sega hates money... what else could explain all the shitty Sonic titles they've released up until now??? People actually brought those. But why not chuck all the Dreamcast Sonic games on there? How about both Space Channel 5 games. Both Crazy Taxi's maybe? I don't think are watching for reactions at all. They will release another 4 games on Live Arcade and PSN, then do exactly the same thing. For a console as revered as the Dreamcast, you'd think that the very first compilation to be branded 'DREAMCAST' would be a little more indicative of the quality software that the machine had. Sega themselves released a lot better titles than what's on here. Games that were just as popular. I think with this compilation, it goes a little further than 'if you don't like it, don't buy it'. This is the Dreamcast's first retail showing since it's death. I dunno, it just completely rubs me the wrong way when companies do not respect the things that they have done in the past. The Dreamcast is widely regarded as one of the greatest consoles ever, and blazed many a trail. It's just wrong. And really, who else apart from Dreamcast fans are gonna buy a collection of Dreamcast games? Most everyone I know out here in real life wouldn't know of the DC had I not introduced it to them. The general public didn't even know of the DC's existence. I'm pretty confused as to who they're hoping purchases this compilation. |
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Post by muteKi on Jan 16, 2011 23:33:27 GMT -5
I even said that not including Chu Chu Rocket was inexcusable. To be fair, the GBA version is an excellent port (compared to some of the other stuff that got ported to it like the Space Channel 5 release), so I probably won't be looking out for any new versions of it. But yeah, since they have a freaking iPhone version of it, you'd think they could put it on this collection too. |
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Post by kitten on Jan 17, 2011 0:11:37 GMT -5
Fuck you guys, Sega Bass Fishing owns bones. In the arcade? Hells yes. At home on a keyboard/joypad? Nahhh... Did you ever play it with the fishing remote controller? It was a lot of fun. |
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Post by NamelessFragger on Jan 17, 2011 1:35:54 GMT -5
As already pointed out, the collection's very uneven. Release a sequel without the game it's succeeding, especially? It's one thing to include the original games and not their sequels, but that's just egregious.
Maybe if we're lucky, the next one will have Jet Grind Radio, the sequels/prequel to what's already in the first pack, and Chu-Chu Rocket! If there is a next one. (I'm kind of expecting Shenmue to get its own compilation, if they get around to re-releasing that.)
And speaking of the possibility Saturn compilations, I do wonder if those actually have a chance of selling. Hell, a Panzer Dragoon compilation would be nice. (Yeah, right...even Orta apparently didn't sell that well.) But as for other things...Burning Rangers and NiGHTS? We need more than that, and the latter just got a Wii "sequel" anyway.
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