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Post by Sac (a.k.a Icaras) on Jul 20, 2011 21:46:36 GMT -5
It does indeed suck hardcore that the Punisher isn't in the game, but that is almost made up by Phoenix Wright being in the game. I passed on MvsC3, but I may pick up the next version (when it gets cheap) so I can play around with Phoenix and OBJECTION! people to death
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 21:55:00 GMT -5
I reserve the right to bitch about anything anytime anywhere Basically. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I get into a series, I need to see everything in it. Good, bad, whatever. Yeah, I'm just encouraging them to do more dumb shit by not being selective, but it is what it is.
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Post by Ike on Jul 20, 2011 22:22:22 GMT -5
It does indeed suck hardcore that the Punisher isn't in the game, but that is almost made up by Phoenix Wright being in the game. I passed on MvsC3, but I may pick up the next version (when it gets cheap) so I can play around with Phoenix and OBJECTION! people to death Punisher appears in the background of one of the new stages I hear.
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Post by Wildcat on Jul 20, 2011 22:25:05 GMT -5
See, that's the rub here. I wanted Strider in the game. Firebrand is a fucking happy surprise. Phoenix Wright (although I'd rather have Franziska) is going to be an interesting character to see in a fighting game. I like Vergil enough to support his inclusion. Nemesis will be intriguing to see in action, too. Frank West = unexcite. 5 out of 6 Capcom reps isn't bad. I'm not a huge Marvel fan, so none of the additions to their side really interests me...save Dr. Strange, who I wanted in the game so he could fight his two villains. But I don't want to pay Capcom for this blatant moneygrab. I can't do it. Won't do it. I'll get it used down the road. To do this in the same YEAR as the first release is just douchey. Couple this with MML3 sentiment and it's a horrendous week.
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Post by kitten on Jul 20, 2011 22:34:23 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised they're including Nemesis given that they seemed to want to ignore everything before RE5. Capcom has really shit over how much RE4 did for the series and really not apologized at all about how shitty RE5 was.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 22:37:05 GMT -5
But they're giving us a fourth chance to buy RE4 again this fall!
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Post by Wildcat on Jul 20, 2011 23:06:33 GMT -5
Not buying that either! Three times was plenty!
* I would be extremely stoked if Leon made it into this game over Nemesis - he deserves better than being killed in the Operation Raccoon City spinoff *
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Post by Wildcat on Jul 20, 2011 23:50:58 GMT -5
Okay, I put what I've been feeling into an editorial. A bit lengthy, but damn, I do feel better writing it. You know, I’m a pretty easy-going guy. Hell, I suppose for that a game I love, putting out money for it three times is okay. I did for you once, Capcom, for Resident Evil 4. Gamecube version, played the hell out of it. PS2 version, felt it was merely so-so and sold it. Bought it to play the Ada part…which, luckily for me, the Wii version has, and I happily still own it and consider it definitive. With the HD port on the horizon, I’ve managed to convince myself to not make a fourth plunge, because I’ve already paid for it enough times and the Wii controls feel perfect to me…and HD graphics do not sell me games. Disclaimer - I did buy Beyond Good & Evil HD, but that was more to support it and its eventual sequel seeing the light over having a HD version of a game I already own. RE4 did just fine in sales the first three times – BG&E did not at all (well, I don’t have the HD sales numbers in front of me, but I’m sure they didn’t reach RE4 levels of success). However, Capcom, I do have to say that your behavior this week has been terrible. For starters, you kill off Mega Man Legends 3 before the fans even have a chance to pay for a damned demo, which was a pretty lousy thing to do, but I do realize you’re a business and perhaps the 3DS is lagging more than expected, so it does make sense to cancel a project that may not succeed. Unfortunately, you turned MML3 into a fan-supported affair, which made them much more personally invested into its creation, and did not give them a chance to see for themselves what they were a part of in game form. I know gamers who bought 3DS’s to play the demo, not just buy the finished game. I think a lot of gamers cynical of your transition into more western-style games and the DLC/DRM focus with your products considered MML3 a last bastion of hope…a fleeting reminder of the Capcom they once knew. And with a simple late-shift post about a cancellation, dreams were shattered and bridges were burned. By letting gamers CARE about a game prior to allowing it to either silently die or be greenlit into a full-on game, you probably bit yourself in the ass. But the best part is about to come. Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 came out in February 2011. Following its release the on-disc DLC (save a few moves for both Jill and Shuma), a sole costume pack and a middling Shadow and Event DLC stream that petered out signaled something was brewing. E3 came and went without a peep about the game, which seemed strange. And then, today, at Comic-Con, you unveil a whole new game in the series, with a ton of new content that apparently can not be DLC. You do this in July 2011. FIVE MONTHS after you released the original game. Not even Resident Evil 4′s PS2 rev came out of the gates that fast. So now all of the people who bought the first game feel stupid, wondering why they even did such a thing, when you’ve been programming its successor (and the game you should have originally released!) since you shoved the original out the door? What a slap in the face. And what really sucks is that I have some excitement about it. I want to have Strider in the game. I admit to smiling on seeing him return. Firebrand is awesome looking, too, and using the Gargoyle’s Quest/Demon’s Crest name? Nice retro tip, there. But there’s the principle of just getting screwed over that is overpowering the coolness of the additions to the cast. I did admit to buying RE4 three times above, so why is this bothering me so much? Well, as I said, I loved RE4, and the PS2 rev I got cheaply to try to play the Separate Ways addition (didn’t get that far, as the graphical drop/glitch increase made the game unplayable for me), and the Wii one I received as a Christmas gift (so I didn’t really buy it ). But I LOVE RE4. It’s my third favorite game. It’s the game Grace and I bonded with during our dating phase of our relationship. And it’s a damn good game. Marvel Vs. Capcom has been a favorite franchise of mine, but it’s no RE4. None of them are even in my favorite game list. I just like competing against the CPU and friends, and keeping my fighting skills from rusting. I have a lot of good memories with the series. That being said, this “sequel” is so quick in making its debut I feel that it should have been the original release. It’s clear that Capcom intended this to happen by the sheer speed they announced it. Five months gave Capcom time to develop more characters and stages, and to, I suppose, test the waters to see if they could pull off such a stunt. And they feel that they can. While nowhere near as fast, they have rehashed Street Fighter IV three times in the last four years. It’s unsurprising…but disappointing that they’ve pulled off one hell of a trolling on their fanbase in the last three days with this and the aborting of Mega Man Legends 3. I, for one, will not be riding the ULTIMATE train…at least, not the way Capcom wants me too. I like MvC3 quite a bit, but I refuse to shell out another $40 to them to get the game I believe I should have received the first time. If it only takes another ten months to add 12 characters, 8 stages, new modes and improve the online experience, they should have skipped the February release and just aimed for November. To that end, I will likely pick up the game down the road used or trade someone for it. I just can’t justify spending money on this game twice to a publisher this determined to piss on their fanbase. This is not worth $112.50 to me (I got the DLC at a reduced rate thanks to a gift card). I’m debating if the initial $62.50 is now. That’s not quite the reaction you wanted, I’m sure, Capcom, but that’s what you’ve gotten. Note - Grace is my wife, FYI.
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Post by X-pert74 on Jul 21, 2011 0:55:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I've noticed that most of the people who whine about sequels and rehashes are usually the ones who end up talking about them online and buying them the most. My theory: Capcom fans are the beaten housewives of the game industry. People always say that about Nintendo, which I can understand, but I think Capcom is way worse in this regard, seriously. I think one of the things that pisses me off the most is that they always have the nerve to blame their fucking fans when their shit doesn't do well. Fuck Capcom.
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Post by Pitchfork on Jul 21, 2011 0:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by Malroth on Jul 21, 2011 1:08:11 GMT -5
Bitch and moan all you want. Firebrand is in it. FIREBRAND.
Luckily, I didnt buy the first edition of this game, so this might get me to buy it now. Possibly.
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Post by muteKi on Jul 21, 2011 1:09:57 GMT -5
"The west doesn't care about Mark Twain" indeed. Humph.
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Post by Ryu the Grappler on Jul 21, 2011 2:29:49 GMT -5
My theory: Capcom fans are the beaten housewives of the game industry. People always say that about Nintendo, which I can understand, but I think Capcom is way worse in this regard, seriously. I think one of the things that pisses me off the most is that they always have the nerve to blame their fucking fans when their shit doesn't do well. Fuck Capcom. At least Capcom is honest about it. People treat each new Zelda game as it was a big deal, when the last two major console installments, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess ( Four Swords Adventure doesn't count and I haven't played any of the portable installments since Link's Awakening), were just rehashes of the Ocarina of Time formula with a new coat of paint. Can't speak for Super Mario (since I've only played Sunshine as far as the 3D games are concerned) and admittedly they did took a bit of risk with Metroid with Prime and Other M, but Metroid has always been something of a second-tier franchise for them. I don't really mind sequels and rehashes that much to be honest. If a game developer can make an already good game even better, then go for it.
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Post by chucat on Jul 21, 2011 3:05:03 GMT -5
where the fuck is gene fuck this shit I'm getting this used and who the fuck is rocket raccoon what are furries doing in my manly superhero fighting game help
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Post by jjxb on Jul 21, 2011 5:27:11 GMT -5
...announced 2 days after i finally get the chance to buy MvC3 and STILL no gene. screw capcom.
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