Best VGM Tracks - The Discussioning

[gaiages]

Got more of my list done... almost halfway now, haha. I'm certainly learning a lot of track names of songs i like in games, too.

I was wondering though, could a Ys fan help me out? I'm terrible with this old computer stuff, so could someone tell me what computer the original version of Ys I came out on, for track purposes? Also, I could of swore "Theme of Adol" was in the original, but when I tried to look it up on youtube, all I got was the Ys IV version and stuff about an unused track. I might have typed something wrong in the search bar, but just to make sure, was that song in the original Ys? Thanks for the help in advance.

[Discoalucard]

PC88 was the original platform, I think?

Is this the Theme of Adol you're looking for? For the TG-16 version, it's used in the opening cinema after the bit with the narration:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TgoTm0fXBM

[superangelo128]

Do you have a better idea (roughly) of how many songs are going to be on this now?

Also I assume you're going to make a YouTube channel specifically for this and reupload every song?

[neozeedeater]

Sept 8, 2011 19:31:13 GMT -5 derboo said:

Just voted, well knowing that I'll only get all miffed because no one else votes for those cool Euro tunes while everything's infested with Squaresoft. (At least the Squaresoft tracks I voted for hold no risk of showing up in the top 10.)

I gave Europe lots of love on my list. Long live C64 and Amiga tunes.

[Discoalucard]

Sept 15, 2011 11:53:35 GMT -5 superangelo128 said:

Do you have a better idea (roughly) of how many songs are going to be on this now?

Still not really...I won't until I total up everything, to be honest, because it really does depend on the number of votes. What's going to be the minimum threshold for inclusion? 3 points? 4? 5? I have no idea. I'd LIKE to include 700 like the Japanese list, so as long as I'm not scraping the bottom to include a number of single pointers, that's what I'm aiming for.

Sept 15, 2011 11:53:35 GMT -5 superangelo128 said:

Also I assume you're going to make a YouTube channel specifically for this and reupload every song?

For now, probably not. I don't see the point of cluttering up YouTube with songs they already have uploaded, not to mention the time investment, so it'll probably just be a playlist. Of course, that means songs can go down since they're out of my control, which is the trade off.

I WOULD like to distribute the whole thing in MP3s, in several packs uploaded on a file sharing site or through torrents. The legality of this gets iffy especially for the small handful of songs that are still being sold, though. I'm going to be providing links for purcahse for all of these, at least. My goal isn't to pirate music, obviously, but rather to expose people to new stuff, and hopefully get them to purchase them as well.

I'm going to be keeping track of all of the YouTube links for all of the songs, even the ones that don't make the final list, and put it up when everything's finalized.

[superangelo128]

ah hmm yeah you have a good point

still it would be cool to somehow get more people to find the results on Youtube easier

[Deleted]

Sept 14, 2011 20:49:20 GMT -5 Discoalucard said:

PC88 was the original platform, I think?

Is this the Theme of Adol you're looking for? For the TG-16 version, it's used in the opening cinema after the bit with the narration:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TgoTm0fXBM

PC88 was the original platform, yes. The X1turbo, PC98, FM77AV, FM7/77, and MSX2 versions came within a half year after the release of the original.

As for the Theme of Adol, it was originally meant to be used in Ys I as one of the Darm Tower songs, but ended up being unused (it was included in the sound test menus of 1987 and 1988 releases, though). It was first actually used in the opening of the PC Engine/TG-16 version.

[AfroRyan]

I have a quick question regarding a song's eligibility in the list. I think most would be in agreement that the Dead Island Trailer is one of the best trailers in recent memory, if not one of the best trailers ever. The music really helps sell the emotional story told in the trailer, but I think it also stands on its own. Now, most music used in trailers comes straight from the game/movie, or uses licensed music (like Halo 3 and Gears of War, respectively), but Dead Island's is unique in that its music was commissioned specifically for the trailer itself. It doesn't appear anywhere in the game, or outside of the trailer.

I still feel that it falls under the category of videogame music, since it wouldn't have existed if not for a videogame. Let me know if it's eligible. If so, I will leave it in my list. If not, I'll remove it.

Here's a link of it without all the sound effects: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CzcOcBb_ms

[Discoalucard]

In this case, yes, it's fine. If there's ever a soundtrack release, I'm sure it'd be on it.

[AfroRyan]

A few more quick questions that I forgot to ask:

I have a couple of instances of music in which the music is unique to its console...that console being the Sega Genesis for us Americans, but the Megadrive for everyone else. How would you like me to phrase it so that it can be parsed easily? Right now I have them listed as Megadrive/Genesis, but I can list them however you like.

Also have similar cases in which the name of the game varies across different regions (like Domino Rally/Minon Everyday Hero/Go! Go! Minon). I posted them without thinking. Should I post it alphabetical order, or is it really even an issue?

Lastly, I made some notes in my post for reference. Should I remove the notes, or leave them be?

[Discoalucard]

You only need to specify the platform if the song is only found in that specific version. So like for Sonic 3D Blast, the Genesis version is completely different from the Saturn version, so that's OK. On the other hand, let's say, TMNT: Turtles in Time for SNES/Arcade and TMNT: Hyperstone Heist for the Genesis. Even though someone might vote for a specific version of a specific song, if there's more than one vote for the song across platforms, then it'll be combined into a single vote. That's what I'll be doing for a lot of Smash Bros songs, too - the vote will count for the song where it originated from. When it comes to compiling a playlist, all versions voted on will be featured, though, so it's not like this will be ignored. You'll just get the original version, plus assorted remixes/arrangements.

Please use the English name when voting, too, if it was localized. Alphabetical order doesn't matter at all since they're all going be resorted anyway - mine's only like that because I'd constructed the list in Excel. For others, please don't number them individually either - I'll need to delete them before I can integrate them into the spreadsheet.

Adding notes in different paragraphs like you did is fine.

[Discoalucard]

Oh, and here's a current running Top 130, of all songs so far with 4 points or more. It's not 100% accurate because I haven't combed through entirely to standardize track names and combine certain arrangements (necessary for a lot of Megaten stuff) but it's a good roundup so far:

1. Mega Man 2, Dr. Wily Stage 1 - 30
2. Chrono Cross, Time's Scar - 24
3. Chrono Cross, Dream of the Shore Bordering Another World - 22
4. Final Fantasy VI, Terra's Theme - 19
5. Castlevania II: Simon's Quest, Bloody Tears - 18
6. Final Fantasy V, Battle on the Big Bridge - 16
7. Chrono Trigger, Corridors of Time - 15
8. Umineko no Naku Koro ni, dreamenddischarger - 15
9. Super Castlevania IV, Theme of Simon - 14
10. Killer7, Rave On - 13
11. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Gerudo Valley - 13
12. Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Chemical Plant Zone - 13
13. Metal Gear Solid 3, Snake Eater - 12
14. Persona 3, The Battle for Everyone’s Souls - 12
15. Castlevania, Wicked Child - 11
16. Deus Ex, Title Theme - 11
17. Final Fantasy VI, Dancing Mad - 11
18. Metal Gear Solid 2, Main Theme - 11
19. Nier, Hills of Radiant Wind - 11
20. Silent Hill 3, You're Not Here - 11
21. Super Mario 64, Dire Dire Docks - 11
22. Diablo, Tristram - 10
23. Ducktales, Moon - 10
24. Duke Nukem 3D, Grabbag - 10
25. Devil's Crush, Main Table theme - 9
26. Gods Eater Burst, An Approaching Nightmare (Disc 1 Version) - 9
27. Mega Man 3, Title - 9
28. Silent Hill, Silent Hill - 9
29. Sonic Adventure 2, Live & Learn - 9
30. Space Harrier, Main Theme - 9
31. Super Smash Bros Melee, Fountain of Dreams - 9
32. Batman (NES), Streets of Desolation (Stage 1) - 8
33. Chrono Trigger, Chrono Trigger - 8
34. Doom, At Doom's Gate - 8
35. Earthbound, Pokey Means Business - 8
36. Gitaroo Man, The Legendary Theme - 8
37. Legend of Zelda, Overworld - 8
38. Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening, Tal Tal Heights - 8
39. Monty on the Run, Main Theme - 8
40. Nier, Emil / Karma - 8
41. Persona 4, Reach out to the Truth - 8
42. Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney, Investigation ~ Cornered - 8
43. Scott Pilgrim, Another Winter - 8
44. Secret of Mana, Fear of the Heavens - 8
45. Umineko no Naku Koro ni, worldenddominator - 8
46. Wild Arms, Into the Wilderness - 8
47. Ys III/Felghana, Illburns Ruins - 8
48. Castlevania, Vampire Killer - 7
49. Castlevania Bloodlines, Sinking Old Sanctuary - 7
50. Castlevania Dracula X, Blood Relations of Heaven and Earth - 7
51. Final Fantasy IV, Battle 2 - 7
52. F-Zero/X, Big Blue - 7
53. G-Darius, Kimera II - 7
54. Mega Man X, Highway Stage - 7
55. Metal Gear Solid, The Best Is Yet to Come - 7
56. OutRun, Magical Sound Shower - 7
57. OutRun, Passing Breeze - 7
58. OutRun, Splash Wave - 7
59. Shadow of the Colossus, Revived Power - 7
60. Starfox, Corneria - 7
61. Street Fighter II, Guile's Theme - 7
62. Ys III/Felghana, Valestein Castle - 7
63. Beyond Good & Evil, Home Sweet Home - 6
64. Castlevania Bloodlines, Reincarnated Soul - 6
65. Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Dracula's Castle - 6
66. Chrono Trigger, Undersea Palace - 6
67. Civilization IV, Baba Yetu - 6
68. Deadly Premonition, Life is Beautiful - 6
69. Double Dragon, Title Theme - 6
70. F-Zero/X, Mute City - 6
71. Grandia, Theme of Grandia - 6
72. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, You ~Destructive~ - 6
73. King of Fighters 2000, Goodbye Esaka - 6
74. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Dark World - 6
75. Monkey Island, Monkey Island Theme - 6
76. Neotokyo, Tin Soldiers - 6
77. Ninja Warriors, Daddy Mulk - 6
78. No More Heroes, We Are Finally Cowboys - 6
79. Panzer Dragoon, Flight - 6
80. Portal, Still Alive - 6
81. Streets of Rage 2, Go Straight - 6
82. Umineko no Naku Koro ni, Hope - 6
83. VVVVVV, Pushing Onwards - 6
84. Ys II, To Make the End of Battle - 6
85. Ys III/Felghana, The Boy Who Had Wings - 6
86. Blue Dragon, Eternity - 5
87. Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse, Beginning - 5
88. Chrono Trigger, Battle with Magus - 5
89. Chrono Trigger, Memories of Green - 5
90. Chrono Trigger, World Revolution - 5
91. Clannad, Nagisa ~ Farewell at the Foot of a Hill - 5
92. Donkey Kong Country, DK Island Swing - 5
93. Donkey Kong Country 2, Stickerbrush Symphony - 5
94. Final Fantasy VI, Decisive Battle - 5
95. Final Fantasy VII, J-E-N-O-V-A - 5
96. Gitaroo Man, Bee Jam Blues - 5
97. God Hand, Gene’s Rock-a-Bye - 5
98. God Hand, God Hand (Credits Song) - 5
99. Grandia II, FIGHT!! Ver.1 - 5
100. Guilty Gear X, Holy Orders (Be Just or Be Dead) - 5
101. Ico, Heal - 5
102. Ikaruga, Chapter 1 Ideal - 5
103. Jet Set Radio, Sneakman - 5
104. Journey to Silius, Title Screen - 5
105. Katamari Damacy, Katamari on the Rocks - 5
106. King of Fighters '96, Arashi no Saxophone 2 - 5
107. King of Fighters '99, Tears - 5
108. Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Astral Observatory - 5
109. Lords of Thunder, Dark Tower (Bosque on Sega CD) - 5
110. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals, Battle 2 - 5
111. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals, Battle 3 - 5
112. Mass Effect 2, Suicide Mission - 5
113. Mega Man 3, Shadow Man - 5
114. Nier, Shadowlord - 5
115. Nier, Song of the Ancients – Fate - 5
116. Ninja Gaiden (NES), Stage 4-2 - 5
117. Okami, Reset ~ “Thank You” Version - 5
118. Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga, Muladhara - 5
119. Silent Hill 2, Theme of Laura - 5
120. Silver Surfer, Stage 1 - 5
121. Skies of Arcadia, Kingdom of Ixa’taka - 5
122. Sonic CD, Sonic Boom - 5
123. Street Fighter II, Ryu Stage - 5
124. Streets of Rage 2, Dreamer - 5
125. Super Mario Bros., Overworld BGM - 5
126. Xenoblade, Unfinished Battle - 5
127. Xenogears, One Who Bears Fangs at God - 5
128. Ys III/Felghana, A Searing Struggle - 5
129. Ys III/Felghana, Be Careful - 5
130. Zillion, Underground - 5

[superangelo128]

I assume since people are still editing their posts

you redid the tally from the beginning instead of continuing on from the previous tally you had in this topic

[Discoalucard]

Nope, that's another reason why it's still just an estimation. I changed a few of mine within the past weekend too and they aren't accounted for either.

[superangelo128]

ah ok

but you are going to start over at the way end

which is good