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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Aug 30, 2006 10:40:07 GMT -5
I try not to have any anti system/company bias anymore But sony isn't doing them selves any favors making the PS3 out to be the 2nd comming of Jesus.
Do you think all this bragging is going to come back to bite them in the ass?
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Post by Weasel on Aug 30, 2006 11:04:04 GMT -5
Yes, of course it will! I mean, first Kutaragi said the PS3 is "too cheap." Then that other guy went on about how it would make computers obsolete. Blu-Ray is the future and such. This arrogance on their part destroys their credibility, as well as any desire I might have had to purchase one of their systems (even with MGS4 on the horizon).
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Post by Shinigami on Aug 30, 2006 11:16:01 GMT -5
Link to these comments plz.
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Post by Neo Rasa on Aug 30, 2006 11:41:44 GMT -5
That's all marketing smoke and mirrors. The real kickers for me was the E3 presentation and how original everything and groundbreaking everything they do is (when discussing the PS3 controller when it clearly has all rumble features removed due to a combination of the Immersion lawsuit and their rushing to put anything motion-related into it after the Wii was announced). The comment about how Microsoft copies everything Sony does in every way and has done so for years (with regards to online play). And the statement (this one is months old but Game Informer JUST has it appearing as "new" in the newest issue, has Bully on the cover) regarding the PS3 game prices. They basically said they won't be $100 but don't get angry at him [Kaz Hirai] if they're a little over $65.
So PS3 game official price = anywhere between $64.99 and $99.99? Most discouraging interview statement ever?
Also Kaz Hirai stated that they did not begin production of the PS3 just yet (this was about two weeks ago). He still swears they'll be able to ship two million units for the November 17th launch as they've kept saying. I'll save you the number crunching trouble: That means that from the day he made that statement until a week before launch, a new PS3 would have to be finished, packaged and shipped every three seconds.
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No.
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Aug 30, 2006 11:59:03 GMT -5
I finally swallow my pride cast aside my Anti Sony Bias, Buy a PSP and then Sony pulls all of this.
instead of making the PS3 out to be some beast that will own our souls why not talk about the ga....oh wait they're all Rehash save for Assassian's Creed and Heavenly sword.
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Post by Neo Rasa on Aug 30, 2006 13:01:36 GMT -5
Assassin's Creed is coming to the 360 and the PC anyway though. And Heavenly Sword has yet to impress me but that's because they keep showing shots/footage from the same stupid arena. The game will give Ninety-Nine Nights a run for its money in the blandness department if the majority of it is set in that environment.
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Post by Discoalucard on Aug 30, 2006 13:50:02 GMT -5
Heavenly Sword is God of War with a chick. It's nothing new. It's also, as Rasa noted, not particularly GOOD looking (from a technical perspective it's OK, but stylistlcally?)
And that one arena is all that they've had "done", I guess, eve though they've showed more in screenshots. I fell through it too! Good times.
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Aug 30, 2006 14:33:50 GMT -5
Ninty Nine Nights looks pretty good to me but then again I LOVE Samurai Warriors to Death (never played it's older cousin Dynasty Warriors though) But yeah What DOES PS3 have? Tekken 6? looks like it'll be a rush Job, Virtua Fighter 5? Meh Sega made the wrong choice making VF Playstation exclusive the PS controler isn't precise enough for VF (and I was never Crazy about Virtua Fighter) Ridge Racer 7? another Rush Job seeing as it was 5 years between RR V and RR 6. 7 is going to suck Warhawk? it wasn't revived sooner for a reason. So yeah games wise what does PS3 have? I'm no Fan of MGS either I think Kojima is a Hack. Gametrailers just posted this Joke of a video www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=12742&type=wmv
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Post by megatronbison on Aug 30, 2006 14:38:50 GMT -5
No offence michiyoyoshiku, but calling Kojima a hack is fighting talk with me
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Aug 30, 2006 14:48:39 GMT -5
I haven't forgiven him for making Emoboy the Main character in MGS2, Sure all those ways to make him die in Subsistence were funny but then I look at the MGS gameplay and it's nothing to write home about.
and if Kojima loves Nintendo so much why isn't he making more games for them? But that's another thread.
Edit- you know what I take that back I forgot about Snatcher
Also back to the main Topic, Sony's first party games for the most part are exellent If they shut up and invested time money and Energy into making some good games that the PS1 and PS2 are known for then the PS3 has a little bit more of a chance at keeping sony's dominance.
Right now the Wii60 is going to kick it's ass
From what i understand you can get a 360 and Wii for $50 less than the PS3 60GB model. I'm hearing $150 as the retail price for Wii
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Post by ReyVGM on Aug 30, 2006 15:35:38 GMT -5
Nintendo isn't going to release the Wii at $150, especially after all the hype and polls on their favor.
It will most likely cost 200-250 dollars, just like all Nintendo consoles before it.
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Aug 30, 2006 16:16:25 GMT -5
Nintendo could dominate at 150. 200-250 is too much for a "next gen" System that has Current Gen technology in it.
No way in hell would I get a Wii at $200
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Post by Neo Rasa on Aug 30, 2006 16:39:22 GMT -5
There's absolutely nothing "current gen" about the Wii unless you're talking about the graphics, and even then the games thare have direct comparisons (like Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3) look far better than their Gamecube counterparts in motion. Nintendo downplaying their system's graphical prowess is nothing new, they did it with the Gamecube, which is an extremely well-built machine when compared to the PS2/XBox capable of producing graphics that blow away just about anything on the PS2, and only look "worse" than their XBox counterparts due to the lack of bump mapping.
Not getting a Wii for $200 because that's too high a price seems foolish given that it's half of what an XBox 360 costs, and 1/3 of what a Playstation 3 will cost (which has yet to deliver a trailer running on the final hardware).
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Aug 30, 2006 16:50:15 GMT -5
Keep in mind I'm only getting a Wii as a companion to my 360 more or less the Wii being an Addon for the 360 in my mind.
Wii60 sounds pretty damn cool does it not?
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Post by Neo Rasa on Aug 30, 2006 17:07:04 GMT -5
Same here. I don't plan on getting a PS3 until it's in the $150 several years from now (or one year from now depending on how well it sells).
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