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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2009 6:55:32 GMT -5
Wow, I hope it's just temporary. Sure, zzz is pretty unreasonable sometimes and I disagree with a lot of what he says but at least he's not hateful and has contributed lots of nice stuff. That's pretty much how I felt for a while, but when you come down to it, he is indeed a hateful, spite-filled, immature prick, and it would be nice if he grew up when he inevitably comes back. Then again, you can wish in one hand and... Edited to get rid of massive "indeed-ness"
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Post by KeeperBvK on Sept 16, 2009 16:47:06 GMT -5
Have you ever played Stupid Invaders? If the snail ride scene doesn't get you, then probably nothing will.
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Post by wyrdwad on Sept 17, 2009 0:20:03 GMT -5
Have you ever played Stupid Invaders? If the snail ride scene doesn't get you, then probably nothing will. I'm intrigued. This sounds like one of those "genius yet awful ideas", like Desert Bus. (: -Tom
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Post by KeeperBvK on Sept 17, 2009 1:46:53 GMT -5
Ha, that's somewhat fitting.
In case you want to know what happens without havnig to play the (pretty good) game: You end up in a big maze at some point and the only way of leaving it is to mount a snail that knows the way out. Unfortunately the designers thought it'd be funny to introduce the snail by making it race past you and back in an absurd speed, only to being reduced to a, well, snail's pace once you climb on its back and watch the rest of the (non-skippable) cutscene.
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Post by Jave on Sept 18, 2009 12:46:35 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm just flogging a dead horse at this point, but something occurred to me while at work. The article does have a lot of tongue-in-cheek wit about it, of a very British variety. I imagine, if someone were to read the article and not pick up on that type of humour, it might read a bit more soap-boxish than it actually is.
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Post by Sketcz-1000 on Sept 18, 2009 17:50:14 GMT -5
Yes, it felt like it was written by an Englishman (sorry if that was stated earlier in the thread).
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Post by jorpho on Sept 21, 2009 0:45:04 GMT -5
Goodness, here there be such drama.
I wanted to ask: in the past, I've seen repeated references to something about that first controversial bathroom scene involving drilling, but there's no mention of it here. Perhaps it was a sound effect played after the body was dragged off-camera?
(A thought occurs: wouldn't it be amusing if the drilling sound was just some sort of tape-rewinding noise introduced during post-processing that someone decided to leave in just for kicks, and thus kicked off the whole controversy?)
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Post by Discoalucard on Sept 21, 2009 7:08:09 GMT -5
Well, all of the Augers had drills (hence the name) that drew blood from their victims. That's really about it. They looked pretty silly.
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Post by jorpho on Sept 21, 2009 8:56:22 GMT -5
Well, all of the Augers had drills (hence the name) that drew blood from their victims. I didn't catch that at all. The article could use that little factoid, methinks.
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Post by ryochan on Sept 21, 2009 17:49:27 GMT -5
I actually got to see the sequence when I went looking for the 1993 Senate Hearings. There is a drilling sound played the entire time the guys in black (Augers?) are taking the girl. But I never saw any actual drilling, just some strange hook-like device going around her neck, and them dragging her off screen.
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Post by cj iwakura on Sept 21, 2009 21:25:21 GMT -5
There is a drill in the hook-gun. It drains their blood.
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Post by jorpho on Sept 21, 2009 22:22:06 GMT -5
I actually got to see the sequence when I went looking for the 1993 Senate Hearings. There is a drilling sound played the entire time the guys in black (Augers?) are taking the girl. But I never saw any actual drilling, just some strange hook-like device going around her neck, and them dragging her off screen. I'd definitely say that puts the scene into a rather different perspective.
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Post by ryochan on Sept 21, 2009 22:40:43 GMT -5
There is a drill in the hook-gun. It drains their blood. That must be what the complaint was about. But I haven't played the game, so can you tell me, do they show it? As I said, I just saw her dragged off screen. Of course, I really should try the game sometime. I'm one of those who actually ENJOYED Sewer Shark
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Post by kal on Sept 22, 2009 8:29:47 GMT -5
Yeah there's drill sounds but realistically without knowing that it's A DRILL it definitely seems like more of a "generic machine" and there's not any blood gushing so it's mildly high on implied violence and non-existent on demonstrated.
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Post by Jave on Sept 22, 2009 10:59:47 GMT -5
The actual violence was very much implied and not shown, but I think there's a psychological effect to that as well.
I remember my mom kind of freaked out (a little bit) when I brought home Ground Zero Texas (yes, I played, and legitimately enjoyed some FMV games back in the day, Sewer Shark included) because during the first level, the aliens were all disguised as humans. Again, the actual onscreen violence is pretty tame (it was implied that they were only stunned) but the fact that they were "real" people falling over was something she wasn't prepared for.
Again these were the days of Doom, and my mom barely flinched when I ripped into demons with a chainsaw, but the appearance of human actors portraying implied violence is a barrier that, when crossed, makes some people uncomfortable.
And if we're talking psychological effects, that scene takes place in a bathroom, which adds a slight sense of voyeurism, and even though bathing suits are far more revealing than what she was wearing at the time, the idea of "underwear" still feels more revealing and more vulnerable. Add to this the image of a young girl being grabbed and pulled offscreen by a group of men, which sets off another set of psychological triggers in itself. And the fact that any actual violence then occurs offscreen leaves your imagination to fill in the blanks. If someone saw just that scene without proper context, I could surely understand there being a knee-jerk reaction.
Of course, this doesn't necessarily "excuse" the senate hearings, because a little more research would have revealed a different picture.
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