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Post by CPromp on Dec 17, 2008 18:44:47 GMT -5
I don't think I've actually ever watched any video with a bad review. Sure, some videos were a bit uninteresting, but he does very detailed and thorough reviews.
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Post by loempiavreter on Dec 18, 2008 18:58:03 GMT -5
I personally think the handpainted backgrounds are the best thing in this game.
But I don't have interested in zelda games.
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Post by Jave on Dec 20, 2008 10:59:54 GMT -5
The handpainted backgrounds are fantastic, but I can see how they'd make it difficult to tell what's a platform and what's just eye candy.
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Post by azul120 on Jan 10, 2012 0:33:21 GMT -5
Pardon the bump, but interesting read. Though I cannot agree on what was said about Zelda 2. Zelda 2 had great controls, and was actually pretty fair once you got the hang of the combat. There needs to be another side-scroller RPG in the series.
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Post by Sketcz-1000 on Jan 10, 2012 4:08:25 GMT -5
I'm glad people are still reading this article, because I'm still playing the games. It's tragic that they're still not easily emulated, and so most have still not played them and therefore can't make their own judgement.
Someday I will attend a gaming convention and give a presentation while playing the game, espousing its merits.
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Post by Catalyst on Jan 10, 2012 16:17:29 GMT -5
I wait for the day CD-I emulation is more easily available and can play these. I'd take the risk on an actual CD-I console if I had the money to throw away, but sadly I don't at the moment. Curious Sketcz how much did you pay for your console?
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Post by Sketcz-1000 on Jan 11, 2012 2:54:59 GMT -5
I had money to burn so spent like £80 on a CDi unit and around 40 game and 40 films off eBay. With postage I think it came to around £100, and worked out to around £1 per game/film roughly. This was back in 2005 or so.
Good deal - I don't think anyone else wanted such a bulky single order.
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Post by Gilder on Nov 27, 2014 14:54:21 GMT -5
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Post by drpepperfan on Nov 27, 2014 15:05:21 GMT -5
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Post by vetus on Nov 27, 2014 17:01:21 GMT -5
HG101's article about Zelda CD-i games is one of the most biased articles I've ever read in my life. Then again for every crappy game there will be always some people to fanatically support them by claiming that they're not that bad and most people are unfair with them for certain reasons. Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 is the most famous example. The argument "you talk negative about it because you haven't actually played it" is a typical invalid argument that every fanatic supporter use. And it makes it look much stupier when there are many detailed gameplay videos that show how awful are these games. Also the argument "if you have played them, you've possibly not gotten very far." is also invalid. If a game is totally unplayable from the beginning, what makes you think that the gameplay is improved in later parts? And yes, I have actually played Link: The Faces of Evil (not in emulator but in an actual Philips CD-i console at a retro games event) and it's as bad as they say.
Finally I find it so hilarious to see people get so mad over AVGN's review for Zelda CD-i games. And you say that AVGN fanbase is obnoxious? How ironic. And for the record only a tiny amount of the fanbase is like you describe.
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Post by Weasel on Nov 28, 2014 12:22:59 GMT -5
HG101's article about Zelda CD-i games is one of the most biased articles I've ever read in my life. Then again for every crappy game there will be always some people to fanatically support them by claiming that they're not that bad and most people are unfair with them for certain reasons. Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 is the most famous example. The argument "you talk negative about it because you haven't actually played it" is a typical invalid argument that every fanatic supporter use. And it makes it look much stupier when there are many detailed gameplay videos that show how awful are these games. Also the argument "if you have played them, you've possibly not gotten very far." is also invalid. If a game is totally unplayable from the beginning, what makes you think that the gameplay is improved in later parts? And yes, I have actually played Link: The Faces of Evil (not in emulator but in an actual Philips CD-i console at a retro games event) and it's as bad as they say. Finally I find it so hilarious to see people get so mad over AVGN's review for Zelda CD-i games. And you say that AVGN fanbase is obnoxious? How ironic. And for the record only a tiny amount of the fanbase is like you describe. You know what? I think there's room for this to become the site's first Point/Counter-Point article. Someone should write a second article about the game that patiently and calmly describes exactly what is wrong with the CD-i Zeldas, without bringing up the obvious (cutscenes) or attacking the other article.
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Post by derboo on Nov 28, 2014 12:42:31 GMT -5
The cutscenes are AWESOME. And I'm confident to say that without the slightest spark of irony. The games... the people who made them had their hearts in the right place and they knew how to design a decent game. They did not know how to make jumping mechanics work tolerably on the CD-i. I do think an article defending them is more interesting and has more value than just another bashing piece, though, because there are genuinely cool aspects about the games that no one else talks about because no one can get over the godawful controls and the anti East Bloc indoctrination engrained in their genes that makes them unable to appreciate the true genius of the cutscenes. One day I'll write an article just about how great the cutscenes are. And I really should start using this image in all kinds of situations:
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Post by Joseph Joestar on Nov 28, 2014 15:54:47 GMT -5
HG101's article about Zelda CD-i games is one of the most biased articles I've ever read in my life. Then again for every crappy game there will be always some people to fanatically support them by claiming that they're not that bad and most people are unfair with them for certain reasons. Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 is the most famous example. The argument "you talk negative about it because you haven't actually played it" is a typical invalid argument that every fanatic supporter use. And it makes it look much stupier when there are many detailed gameplay videos that show how awful are these games. Also the argument "if you have played them, you've possibly not gotten very far." is also invalid. If a game is totally unplayable from the beginning, what makes you think that the gameplay is improved in later parts? And yes, I have actually played Link: The Faces of Evil (not in emulator but in an actual Philips CD-i console at a retro games event) and it's as bad as they say. Finally I find it so hilarious to see people get so mad over AVGN's review for Zelda CD-i games. And you say that AVGN fanbase is obnoxious? How ironic. And for the record only a tiny amount of the fanbase is like you describe. You know what? I think there's room for this to become the site's first Point/Counter-Point article. Someone should write a second article about the game that patiently and calmly describes exactly what is wrong with the CD-i Zeldas, without bringing up the obvious (cutscenes) or attacking the other article. While I appreciate seeing something positive said about those games, the article comes off WAY too strong like one of those Google reviews where a restaurant owner is trying to do damage control for all of the bad reviews they've gotten. For example, the apologist look at the controls made me think it was a parody or troll article when I read it years ago.
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Post by Magma MK-II on Nov 28, 2014 17:00:09 GMT -5
How old is this article, anyway? Besides, it is not the only article here that looks biased, most of the old ones who didn't got updated yet are biased too.
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Post by drpepperfan on Nov 28, 2014 17:15:11 GMT -5
2007. Somewhat old, but newer than most of the really biased ones.
It's a interesting article, that's for sure, but there is a line between "positive" and "deluded", and I feel this one crosses that line. Not to say you can't have a attitude on it other than hating every single element of it, but the idea of having a counter point article sounds fun.
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