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Post by Digitalnametag on Sept 19, 2018 23:01:17 GMT -5
Raspberry PI and hacked PSP's aside there are so many Sony supported ways (PSP, Vita, PSTV, PS3 and a few on PS4) to play PS1 games I struggle to see much of a market for this. Maybe five years down the line when the PS5 is out and if the PS4 never gets the digital library the PS3/PSP/Vita has. Plus the PS1 just doesn't garner the same level of nostalgia as the NES/SNES. People that have not played games in years are buying NES/SNES classics because they remember Mario and Zelda. I can't see that happening as much with the PS1 classic.
Yeah they HDMI out is neat but the lack of dual shock is a bummer. Course they'll probably sell those later. It's a neat looking system that I'm sure will sell millions but why?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 23:21:06 GMT -5
Guys who played Tekken in high school or college and aren't enthusiasts like us, is my guess. Sony knows there are better ways to play their old games, so they aren't marketing this one towards us. So long as people are enjoying classic games, it's all good.
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Post by Digitalnametag on Sept 19, 2018 23:28:47 GMT -5
But do those people exist in great numbers? I understand Sony’s target market I’m just not sure it is as big as they think it is.
Maybe it is just my age group but when I talk to non-gamers about video games they hardly ever mention PS1 stuff. Everybody seems to know Mario and Zelda. Not as many recall Crash Bandicoot, Tekken, and Ridge Racer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 23:31:16 GMT -5
Not sure how old you are, but I've spoken with a lot of guys in their mid-20s over the last few years who are very nostalgic for PS1. I tend to agree that this can't be anywhere near as big as general affection for Nintendo's early hardware, it's probably still going to be a slam dunk overall.
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Post by X-pert74 on Sept 19, 2018 23:58:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I rarely hear local friends discuss the original Playstation in general. I think most of the friends I grew up with were into the N64 then... or maybe played PC or Dreamcast during that time. Usually when I hear discussion about Playstation 1 games, it's ones that are part of larger established series, or that continued to have a life afterward, like Resident Evil or Metal Gear or Final Fantasy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 3:23:34 GMT -5
I’d be up for this as there are a lot of PS1 games Id like not in the PS Store currently or if they are- it’s shitty PAL ports.
I have a Vita & PSP but as others said- a bit shit on the big TV & being stuck using a PSP to play without L2/R2 buttons.
I’d use the PS3 but there’s a tonne of US only games I’d want to play.
A little console without the rigmarole of graphics plug ins for emulation would be great- especially if its easy to sling a bunch of extra games on
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Post by alphex on Sept 20, 2018 4:00:29 GMT -5
If there's no M rated games, that's gonna be a bummer. Resident Evil 1 or 2 and Silent Hill are essential to the PS1, IMO. Tomb Raider, too, I'd argue, even if I don't like the game. But I guess that one's not M in the US anyway. What about GTA1 and 2?
Of course, what I would like to see is:
Street Fighter Alpha 3
GTA2
a Breath of Fire game
Rival Schools (not gonna happen, but damn!)
Symphony of the Night
Metal Gear Solid
a Crash Bandicoot game
Spyro
Fighting Force
Legend of Mana
a Tales game
Resident Evil 2
Silent Hill
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Post by toei on Sept 20, 2018 4:23:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I rarely hear local friends discuss the original Playstation in general. I think most of the friends I grew up with were into the N64 then... or maybe played PC or Dreamcast during that time. Usually when I hear discussion about Playstation 1 games, it's ones that are part of larger established series, or that continued to have a life afterward, like Resident Evil or Metal Gear or Final Fantasy. The PS1 was far, far more popular than the N64 (or Dreamcast, which just barely overlapped with the PSX's last years). It may be less valorized by retro gamers because of hang-ups about early 3D, but it had a ton of great games and dominated the market for 5 to 6 years. On the other hand, it's not as old as the NES or SNES, doesn't have the strong brand identity Nintendo has (though Crash Bandicoot actually does inspire a lot of nostalgia -the remastered trilogy sold over 4 million copies!), and doesn't have the same romanticism attached. But I wouldn't count it out, unless people get sick of those gimmicky mini-consoles by then. Also: "Usually when I hear discussion about Playstation 1 games, it's ones that are part of larger established series, or that continued to have a life afterward, like Resident Evil or Metal Gear or Final Fantasy." Isn't that even more true of Nintendo's systems? Mario, Zelda, etc. fit that description. What N64 games get brought up that aren't part of a larger established series? Golden Eye, maybe a couple more RARE games? |
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Post by JoeQ on Sept 20, 2018 5:08:53 GMT -5
Mischief Makers and Sin & Punishment? RARE games on N64 Mini wouldn't happen without Microsoft's blessing and I'm not sure if they'd wanna cooperate after Nintendo burned them on GoldenEye.
Me, I'm holding out for Xbox Mini.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Sept 20, 2018 5:39:38 GMT -5
Also: "Usually when I hear discussion about Playstation 1 games, it's ones that are part of larger established series, or that continued to have a life afterward, like Resident Evil or Metal Gear or Final Fantasy." Isn't that even more true of Nintendo's systems? Mario, Zelda, etc. fit that description. What N64 games get brought up that aren't part of a larger established series? Golden Eye, maybe a couple more RARE games? I don't know if this is what she meant at all, but often when people are discussing series like FF, RE, Silent Hill or Metal Gear, they don't consider the PSX entries the most essential in those franchises. Unlike, say, the SNES or N64 where games like OoT, aLttP, Super Metroid, SMW and DKC2, which are all still considered the best (or some of the best) in their franchise. |
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Post by toei on Sept 20, 2018 6:02:59 GMT -5
Also: "Usually when I hear discussion about Playstation 1 games, it's ones that are part of larger established series, or that continued to have a life afterward, like Resident Evil or Metal Gear or Final Fantasy." Isn't that even more true of Nintendo's systems? Mario, Zelda, etc. fit that description. What N64 games get brought up that aren't part of a larger established series? Golden Eye, maybe a couple more RARE games? I don't know if this is what she meant at all, but often when people are discussing series like FF, RE, Silent Hill or Metal Gear, they don't consider the PSX entries the most essential in those franchises. Unlike, say, the SNES or N64 where games like OoT, aLttP, Super Metroid, SMW and DKC2, which are all still considered the best (or some of the best) in their franchise. I hear a lot of Resident Evil 2 talk, personally, and Metal Gear Solid too. And Silent Hill is either the second or third best in the series, so it's kind of a must. FF7 is still a major entry, despite the backlash. The "best of the franchise" criteria is kind of arbitrary, but it's worth noting that all the SNES and N64 games you've mentioned were sequels to already long-established series apart from DKC2, while the major PlayStation series (aside from Final Fantasy) all debuted on the console, so they didn't have time to reach that level of refinement. But that hasn't hurt the NES Classic (does anyone think the first Zelda is the best in the series, for real?) |
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Post by Bumpyroad on Sept 20, 2018 6:05:05 GMT -5
Ok, so let's ship it with trio: Gran Turismo, Tomb Raider and..Gradius Gaiden!?
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Sept 20, 2018 6:13:02 GMT -5
I'm not saying it's a fair comparison or that Zelda I is one of the best in the series (it isn't). I'm just saying that a lot of the quintessential PS1 games are not the most popular in their series. It's just an interesting difference, that's all. And it doesn't go for every series, obviously. Crash and SotN are two notable examples.
I don't see as much praise for RE2 as for REmake or RE4, for example, and even FFVII (though it's still 100% essential and very iconic) isn't regarded the best in its series despite how well known is.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Sept 20, 2018 7:25:49 GMT -5
Plus the PS1 just doesn't garner the same level of nostalgia as the NES/SNES. People that have not played games in years are buying NES/SNES classics because they remember Mario and Zelda. I can't see that happening as much with the PS1 classic. It does for those who grew up during the PS1 era, which was more popular than previous ones so I don't see why not. Now I can also see an issue with a lot of those games feeling dated today, being early 3D games, without having the pick up and play simplicity of NES games though but the majority of the target audience probably doesn't think that far or consider any other points against it. So they buy it, play a few games and then put it away or sell it. Capitalism wins again. Agree with your other points though. |
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Post by kaoru on Sept 20, 2018 7:51:29 GMT -5
I think there are quite a few people that grew up with the system, are adults that don't or barely play games anymore, but would totally buy this one for nostalgia.
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Btw, there's a European packaging revealed now, and the PEGI seal on it is 18+, so yeah, good chance we get a Resident Evil and other such rated games.
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