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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 9:26:25 GMT -5
I’d be up for this as there are a lot of PS1 games Id like not in the PS Store currently or if they are- it’s shitty PAL ports. I have a Vita & PSP but as others said- a bit shit on the big TV & being stuck using a PSP to play without L2/R2 buttons. I’d use the PS3 but there’s a tonne of US only games I’d want to play. A little console without the rigmarole of graphics plug ins for emulation would be great- especially if its easy to sling a bunch of extra games on Oddly enough, the PSP Go can use a Dual Shock 3 as a controller. Also, if you switch a PSP-2000, 3000, or Go to "Interlace mode", PS1 games will fill your tv screen vertically. I want to say you can use a controller with Vita, but it's been forever so I'm not 100% sure on that point. |
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Post by Serah on Sept 20, 2018 9:28:04 GMT -5
I think people's perception here is being skewed by their age and location. In terms of sheer sales the PS1 obliterated both its competition and every console before it. The NES, N64 and SNES' numbers are a piss in the wind by comparison. The PS1 went mainstream in a way that the rest of gaming wouldn't for another decade or so.
Like, the N64 did alright in itself. Lots of gamers remember it fondly and it made Nintendo money. But compared to the PS1? The N64 was an absolute failure. There was no contest. 32 million vs. 102 million. Not only had no gaming system broken 100 mil before, none had come close.
People my age, in my circle, who aren't really gamers pretty much exclusively have nostalgia for the PS1 and 2. The game-players in my circle primarily grew up with the PS1 and have the kind of nostalgic bond with it that American 30 somethings have with the NES (or us weirdo Brits have with the Speccy). Both groups are pretty excited. That doesn't mean it will definitely be a success, they're just my friends after all, but given the overwhelming success of the PS1 I'd be shocked if they're alone.
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Post by dsparil on Sept 20, 2018 9:56:46 GMT -5
The U.K. in particular has always been a tough market for Nintendo so the specific feelings there isn't necessarily indicative of a wider trend. Ultimately it's going to come down to what's actually on it which is still mostly a mystery.
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Post by Snake on Sept 20, 2018 12:17:22 GMT -5
People my age, in my circle, who aren't really gamers pretty much exclusively have nostalgia for the PS1 and 2. The game-players in my circle primarily grew up with the PS1 and have the kind of nostalgic bond with it that American 30 somethings have with the NES (or us weirdo Brits have with the Speccy). Both groups are pretty excited. That doesn't mean it will definitely be a success, they're just my friends after all, but given the overwhelming success of the PS1 I'd be shocked if they're alone. Totally. The thing is, for PS1, there is going to be a demographic overlap. You have a higher population that grew up with the PS1 than with the NES. Except those of us who grew up with an NES also continued to grow with the PS1. |
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Post by shelverton on Sept 20, 2018 17:35:52 GMT -5
About SotN: There are some very serious rumors about a Castlevania collection going on, with ”Castlevania Requiem” being rated for Ps4 in Korea, and it appearently has Rondo and Symphony on it. If true, I guess this particular Playstation Classic thing may not have SotN after all...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 17:40:46 GMT -5
It could easily be on both, but I suppose we'll see soon enough.
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Post by toei on Sept 20, 2018 17:52:23 GMT -5
I think people's perception here is being skewed by their age and location. In terms of sheer sales the PS1 obliterated both its competition and every console before it. The NES, N64 and SNES' numbers are a piss in the wind by comparison. The PS1 went mainstream in a way that the rest of gaming wouldn't for another decade or so. Like, the N64 did alright in itself. Lots of gamers remember it fondly and it made Nintendo money. But compared to the PS1? The N64 was an absolute failure. There was no contest. 32 million vs. 102 million. Not only had no gaming system broken 100 mil before, none had come close. People my age, in my circle, who aren't really gamers pretty much exclusively have nostalgia for the PS1 and 2. The game-players in my circle primarily grew up with the PS1 and have the kind of nostalgic bond with it that American 30 somethings have with the NES (or us weirdo Brits have with the Speccy). Both groups are pretty excited. That doesn't mean it will definitely be a success, they're just my friends after all, but given the overwhelming success of the PS1 I'd be shocked if they're alone. All good points, but I'll add that the N64 was actually only successful in North America, for whatever reason, which may be why American gamers have an inflated sense of its popularity and relevance. In Japan it was third behind the PSX and Saturn, and more importantly, it sold less than a third of what the SNES had sold there, dropping from over 17 millions to 5 and some change, which marks it as a major failure in that territory (by comparison, the Saturn only sold a few thousand more, but it was almost twice as much as the Mega Drive had sold, and at least four time as much as the Mark III/Master System, showing some steady growth). In Europe, its score wasn't too far behind the SNES, but it was dwarfed by the PS1. There is huge demand for non-PAL versions of PSX game in Europe, as evidenced by the 2.5 million+ copies of Crash Bandicoot: N Sane Trilogy sold over there within the last year. |
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Post by X-pert74 on Sept 21, 2018 0:15:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I rarely hear local friends discuss the original Playstation in general. I think most of the friends I grew up with were into the N64 then... or maybe played PC or Dreamcast during that time. Usually when I hear discussion about Playstation 1 games, it's ones that are part of larger established series, or that continued to have a life afterward, like Resident Evil or Metal Gear or Final Fantasy. The PS1 was far, far more popular than the N64 (or Dreamcast, which just barely overlapped with the PSX's last years). It may be less valorized by retro gamers because of hang-ups about early 3D, but it had a ton of great games and dominated the market for 5 to 6 years. On the other hand, it's not as old as the NES or SNES, doesn't have the strong brand identity Nintendo has (though Crash Bandicoot actually does inspire a lot of nostalgia -the remastered trilogy sold over 4 million copies!), and doesn't have the same romanticism attached. But I wouldn't count it out, unless people get sick of those gimmicky mini-consoles by then. Also: "Usually when I hear discussion about Playstation 1 games, it's ones that are part of larger established series, or that continued to have a life afterward, like Resident Evil or Metal Gear or Final Fantasy." Isn't that even more true of Nintendo's systems? Mario, Zelda, etc. fit that description. What N64 games get brought up that aren't part of a larger established series? Golden Eye, maybe a couple more RARE games? I wasn't claiming otherwise, lol; I know the Playstation sold a lot more than the N64. I was speaking purely anecdotally. |
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Post by wyldesyde on Sept 22, 2018 21:39:04 GMT -5
It got my attention with Wild Arms.
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Post by Ace Whatever on Oct 29, 2018 7:54:38 GMT -5
The game lineup for both the Japanese and international versions have been revealed: Shared Games: Battle Arena Toshinden Final Fantasy VII Intelligent Qube Jumping Flash Metal Gear Solid Mr Driller Resident Evil Director’s Cut Revelations: Persona Ridge Racer Type 4 Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo Tekken 3 Wild Arms International: Cool Boarders 2 Destruction Derby Grand Theft Auto Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee Rayman Syphon Filter Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Twisted Metal Japanese: Arc The Lad Arc The Lad 2 Armored Core Saga Frontier Gradius Gaiden Devil Dice G-Darius Parasite Eve If you ask me, the "strictly appealing to nostalgia" gimmick of these mini consoles is really screwing up the game lineups every subsequent generation. I'm sure a case can be made for all of the above games, but frikkin' Rainbow Six? The worst reviewed port of the game? Also doesn't the game support analog controls? On the other hand, the Japanese version having a quarter of the lineup be turn based RPGs seems a bit much to me. 3 on the SNES Classic felt about enough, but 5?! |
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Post by kaoru on Oct 29, 2018 9:15:57 GMT -5
Seems like a decent enough selection, as long as one overlooks the rotten egg that's the first Persona.
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Post by Bumpyroad on Oct 29, 2018 9:19:02 GMT -5
I've been praying for all, only Japan will get a redemption it seems.. |
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Post by lurker on Oct 29, 2018 10:31:44 GMT -5
The game lineup for both the Japanese and international versions have been revealed: Shared Games: Battle Arena Toshinden Final Fantasy VII Intelligent Qube Jumping Flash Metal Gear Solid Mr Driller Resident Evil Director’s Cut Revelations: Persona Ridge Racer Type 4 Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo Tekken 3 Wild Arms International: Cool Boarders 2 Destruction Derby Grand Theft Auto Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee Rayman Syphon Filter Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Twisted Metal Japanese: Arc The Lad Arc The Lad 2 Armored Core Saga Frontier Gradius Gaiden Devil Dice G-Darius Parasite Eve If you ask me, the "strictly appealing to nostalgia" gimmick of these mini consoles is really screwing up the game lineups every subsequent generation. I'm sure a case can be made for all of the above games, but frikkin' Rainbow Six? The worst reviewed port of the game? Also doesn't the game support analog controls? On the other hand, the Japanese version having a quarter of the lineup be turn based RPGs seems a bit much to me. 3 on the SNES Classic felt about enough, but 5?! Now a whole new generation can be introduced to the farty Basement music of RE: Director’s Cut. |
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Post by kaoru on Oct 29, 2018 10:36:31 GMT -5
Maybe not, tho. Director's Cut has the normal soundtrack, Director's Cut Dual Shock ver. has the changed one. And the PSMini controllers don't have Dual Shock.
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Post by dsparil on Oct 29, 2018 11:02:59 GMT -5
Decent is the operative word. The NES Classic and SNES Classic deserve those titles. The NES has some "classic filler" like Dr. Mario, but the SNES is solid gold. Playstaion Classic is bordering on false advertising, and Playstation Nostalgia Edition might even be stretching both Playstation and Nostalgia. I've played almost all of these and I certainly would not have chosen most of them.
BAT, FFVII, MGS, Mr Driller, Super Puzzle Fighter II, Destruction Derby, GTA, Abe's Oddysee, Rayman, R6 (a full half!) all have ports on other platforms. Persona has a Japanese PC version and the vanilla version of RE has several ports. Granted, most of those are heavily associated with the PSX, but it lends a feeling of Sony grabbing what they could rather than creating a definitive collection. The Japanese selection is all exclusives at least although Saga Frontier over the superior sequel is an odd choice. Same goes with Persona over Persona 2: Eternal Punishment which had a worldwide release.
FFVII, MGS, RE and Tekken 3 are the only unassailable classics. Most of them get a big "meh" from me. Twisted Metal and Destruction Derby feels very redundant. Like already mentioned PSX R6 is the worst reviewed one by far. DD and R6 could so easily have been excluded and 2 of the Japanese ones made global. Also, no Tomba? Personal preference aside, the lack of Gran Turismo is truly puzzling.
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