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Post by hidetoshidecide on Jul 20, 2011 11:29:36 GMT -5
Hmm, that article claims piracy is the main problem for handheld games, but I say handheld games are the main problem for handheld games. I would never buy Ys or Trails in the Sky as a handheld game, if Xseed would bring out the PC versions I would buy one title or the other. If they were console games, I'd own all of them by now. Whereas I bought all of the Ys PSP games precisely because they were on a handheld. You should be wary of thinking your personal preferences are anything other than your personal preferences. You answered your own question. |
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Post by Ike on Jul 20, 2011 11:38:45 GMT -5
Ditto on Ys and Trails. The Ys games are fantastic as handhelds given the nature of their gameplay.
As for mid-tier retail releases: The two EDF games launched at $40 and are widely considered to be fantastic games at that price point. Deadly Premonition, one of the best games of last year, launched brand new at $20. There is absolutely nothing keeping companies from profiting off of mid-tier releases if the games are actually good.
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Post by hidetoshidecide on Jul 20, 2011 11:59:29 GMT -5
I would guess, per the 1up article linked above, that the physical costs of retail releases make games at a lower price point undesirable.
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Post by retr0gamer on Jul 20, 2011 12:39:06 GMT -5
In the case of Deadly Premonition there was very little localisation cost since the game was mostly in english with voice acting to begin with and EDF had a tiny budget compared to most boxed games.
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Post by alan01987 on Jul 20, 2011 15:27:06 GMT -5
Really? I thought 3 looked much more interesting than 2. Then again, I got bored after 3 or 4 missions playing the first game, and own the second but haven't even opened it. So I suppose I'm not one to talk. I'll go back to it... someday... The setting of 3 was more interesting- particularly the idea of following a penal battalion- than the school setting of 2, but there's no saving the engine that the PSP games use. Also, Sega recycles some of battle maps from the 2nd game as well.  |
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Post by Ike on Jul 20, 2011 16:33:33 GMT -5
In the case of Deadly Premonition there was very little localisation cost since the game was mostly in english with voice acting to begin with and EDF had a tiny budget compared to most boxed games. DP's budget wasn't enormous to begin with, and I would've gladly paid $40 to cover the localization costs if it were necessary. |
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Post by zellsf on Jul 20, 2011 16:38:17 GMT -5
The setting of 3 was more interesting- particularly the idea of following a penal battalion- than the school setting of 2, but there's no saving the engine that the PSP games use. Also, Sega recycles some of battle maps from the 2nd game as well. While Sega's been doing everything they can to make the series worse after the first entry... It's still better than a lot of other stuff available, especially for the PSP. Really want that localized. Hmm, that article claims piracy is the main problem for handheld games, but I say handheld games are the main problem for handheld games. I would never buy Ys or Trails in the Sky as a handheld game, if Xseed would bring out the PC versions I would buy one title or the other. If they were console games, I'd own all of them by now. Whereas I bought all of the Ys PSP games precisely because they were on a handheld. You should be wary of thinking your personal preferences are anything other than your personal preferences. Not just his personal preferences, lots of western gamers seems to agree, portable gaming just isn't as big here as is in Japan. Seems a more plausible explanation than "Japanese people don't pirate games" to me. |
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Post by Super Orbus on Jul 20, 2011 16:40:50 GMT -5
That's because you can play your PSP while you're riding the train, but you can't play your PSP while you're driving your car. Or at least you shouldn't.
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Post by susanismyalias on Jul 20, 2011 16:53:41 GMT -5
You can't tell me what to do.
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Post by hidetoshidecide on Jul 20, 2011 18:10:02 GMT -5
Not just his personal preferences, lots of western gamers seems to agree, portable gaming just isn't as big here as is in Japan. Seems a more plausible explanation than "Japanese people don't pirate games" to me. Au contraire. The DS sold like gangbusters here; offhand, I'd guess that it's sold more than the 360 and PS3 combined. |
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Post by hidetoshidecide on Jul 20, 2011 18:25:16 GMT -5
Also, Sega recycles some of battle maps from the 2nd game as well. I had a mirthful little chuckle at that. VC2 felt as though it was cobbled together using the techniques of 1920s scientific management gurus. |
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Post by derboo on Jul 20, 2011 20:34:16 GMT -5
Not just his personal preferences, lots of western gamers seems to agree, portable gaming just isn't as big here as is in Japan. Seems a more plausible explanation than "Japanese people don't pirate games" to me. Au contraire. The DS sold like gangbusters here; offhand, I'd guess that it's sold more than the 360 and PS3 combined. Not for its great RPG offering. Ever since the first LCD games, handhelds have been and are casual gaming devices, first and foremost. Sony tried to change that with the PSP, suceeded in Japan, failed in the West. For good reasons, I'd argue. |
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Post by Mr. Beam on Jul 20, 2011 20:38:48 GMT -5
RPG TSUKURU : DS - Well, I've think AGETEC is out of business. Because, the version on the Nintendo DS isn't out. Also, I've think XSEED GAMES, or somebody. Get the rights for RPG TSUKURU : DS.
ZETTAI ZETSUMEI TOSHI 3 - Well, we got the predcessors. But, we don't have ZETTAI ZETSUMEI TOSHI 3. Also, I know the earthquakes. But, we got to have the complete series.
K - ON ! Houkago Live ! ! - Hey, we have the Manga Version, and Anime Version. So, why not the Video Game?
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Post by Super Orbus on Jul 20, 2011 22:57:55 GMT -5
Au contraire. The DS sold like gangbusters here; offhand, I'd guess that it's sold more than the 360 and PS3 combined. Not for its great RPG offering. Ever since the first LCD games, handhelds have been and are casual gaming devices, first and foremost. Sony tried to change that with the PSP, suceeded in Japan, failed in the West. For good reasons, I'd argue. I don't mind if the casual games keep the console afloat as long as I still get to play the rpgs. |
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Post by derboo on Jul 20, 2011 23:58:31 GMT -5
It doesn't (in the west) because, apparently, everyone buys the casual games but pirates the RPGs. [/sarcasm mode]
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