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Post by Discoalucard on Aug 25, 2011 15:11:07 GMT -5
And those aren't really exclusives if you count in the PC and, well, the DC wasn't even a different generation, so why would you count Shenmue II as an exclusive? It was in North America. But yeah, the Xbox was a nice alternative to PC gaming, since it was cheaper and more approachable. But at the same time it's made it more useless in retrospect outside of a few cases - it was great to be able to play Max Payne 2 cheaply and smoothly back then, but why bother when even low level PCs nowadays can play it both better and more conveniently?
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Post by retr0gamer on Aug 25, 2011 15:19:15 GMT -5
The multiplayer, at least, was definitely something special, especially considering the tremendous tournament scene that has grown from Halo's beginnings (with the vast majority of professional players considering the original to have the best MP). Halo's "medium" pace really set it aside from slower games like Counter-Strike and the Tom Clancy games and faster fragfests like UT and Quake, too. There was a big tournament scene before Halo on PC. I always felt that Halo was the same as stuff like Quake 3 Arena and Unreal tournament and I never felt the 'medium' pace differentiated and was more a result of being slower to accomodate joypad use. It just felt like a slower Unreal Tournament. It felt more like a throw back since PC multiplayer had graduated to the more tactical slow paced games liek CS and Tom Clancy and the massive vehicular battles of Operation flashpoint and Battlefield which was around the corner. I'm not saying it's bad but being a slower paced Unreal Tournament really didn't seem like anything special to me.
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Post by derboo on Aug 25, 2011 15:20:40 GMT -5
aside from a handful of exclusives (KOTOR, Jade Empire, Shenmue II, etc). And those aren't really exclusives if you count in the PC and, well, the DC wasn't even a different generation, so why would you count Shenmue II as an exclusive? When one console is discontinued before the other gets released, I'd call that different generations. But yeah, the Xbox was a nice alternative to PC gaming, since it was cheaper and more approachable. But at the same time it's made it more useless in retrospect outside of a few cases - it was great to be able to play Max Payne 2 cheaply and smoothly back then, but why bother when even low level PCs nowadays can play it both better and more conveniently? When I wanted to play Max Payne 2 on PC, I'd have to buy a new Gamepad first
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Post by KeeperBvK on Aug 25, 2011 15:31:58 GMT -5
Right, I forgot about Shenmue II not having been released in NA. Sorry about rubbing salt into some wounds there. ^^ And it's not that hard to tell where I'm living, given the info being given right below my avatar.
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Post by Ike on Aug 25, 2011 15:45:54 GMT -5
Shenmue II did get released here, on Xbox.
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Post by KeeperBvK on Aug 25, 2011 15:51:04 GMT -5
Shenmue II did get released here, on Xbox. I know. I was referring to the DC version.
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Post by megatronbison on Aug 25, 2011 16:19:27 GMT -5
Shenmue II did get released here, on Xbox. I know. I was referring to the DC version. Yeah but the DC version was robbed of the passionless english dub! Ryo just isn't the same unless he is speaking in monotone english
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Post by PooshhMao on Aug 25, 2011 16:55:30 GMT -5
Also the original NES was a terrible console. Great library, don't get me wrong, but the actual hardware... ugh. I have Vietnam-esque war trips remembering trying to get the fucking thing to work. Sometimes smacking it would actually do the trick. I did not suffer many reliability problems with it, though in retrospect I'm pissed that it came out here about one year after Japan got the PC Engine
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Post by retr0gamer on Aug 25, 2011 17:33:00 GMT -5
The NES is quite easy to fix though. Open her up and either bend out all 72 pins or else get another 72 pin connector. Saying that I've a new NES I got for a fiver with the bad connector problem and have been too busy/lazy to fix it.
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Post by Warchief Onyx on Aug 25, 2011 17:44:19 GMT -5
It wasn't easy to fix for a seven year old.
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Post by akumajobelmont on Aug 25, 2011 23:28:04 GMT -5
I really liked my Xbox. The hardware was pretty cool, too, being the first major console to have a hard drive, allow for custom soundtracks, and limited HDTV support. It was also a very nice alternative for playing a lot of PC games if you didn't have a good enough computer. At the very least, I had more games for it than the Gamecube. This. The amount of PC ports on the Xbox was a big plus for me. My PC at the time couldn't run anything, and I got to experience Half Life 2, Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth (great game, btw), Return to Castle Wolfenstein and many other games that I wouldn't have been able to touch otherwise. And all things considered, they were all fantastic ports. Also, the exclusives it did have were enough for me. Then there's the fact that SEGA shifted development of most of the games it had originally planned for the Dreamcast to the Xbox was what sold me on the thing. Just knowing that Shenmue 2 was gonna be released on the console, and Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta and all those were going to be exclusive to the Xbox was enough for me to take the plunge on the system, as I was moving on from my Dreamcast anyways.
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Post by Warchief Onyx on Aug 26, 2011 0:02:00 GMT -5
Yeah, from the controller design to a few of the games Sega ended up putting on there and the online infrastructure (plus the fact that the Dreamcast OS was Windows-based), the Xbox line felt a lot like a successor to the Dreamcast.
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Post by Feynman on Aug 26, 2011 0:08:19 GMT -5
Steel Battalion alone is enough to justify the existence of the original Xbox. Anything else on the system is just a bonus.
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Post by killer on Aug 26, 2011 0:44:38 GMT -5
Ninja Gaiden Black too.
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Post by derboo on Aug 26, 2011 1:32:29 GMT -5
Yeah, from the controller design to a few of the games Sega ended up putting on there and the online infrastructure (plus the fact that the Dreamcast OS was Windows-based), the Xbox line felt a lot like a successor to the Dreamcast. Only that it went from the most compact, slick design to a grotesque monstrosity.
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