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Post by GamerL on Aug 28, 2018 15:58:40 GMT -5
It suited Dragon's Trap. It doesn't really suit SoR. Lazy Adobe Illustrator art just gets on my nerves. There's no excuse for it when you have games like Hollow Knight and Vanillaware's output (who use an in house vector art package but it's the same principle as illustrator). From my time in the industry they just teach undergrads this stuff because it's cheap, easy to do and the aesthetic 'sells' as it's what most successful mobile games use. So you end up with bad art being pushed and promoted because it's seen as more sellable while it's near impossible to get a good artist. This. It's not "another awesome artstyle", it's terrible pseudo-cartoon garbage. It's anti-style. I hate it. JoeQ I'm not interested in either, although by most (all?) accounts, Sonic Mania gets it right. I think Dragon's Trap was well received, as well? The look isn't as much an issue since it was always bright and colorful, though it's still corny compared to the original. I'm not interested in remakes and revivals, especially when done by other people in a completely different time and place. Bobinator That beach and that backstreet sunrise are still gritty, in their own way, even though they're beautiful. They're both 16-bit interpretations of street-level realism. Also, notice literally none of those screenshots take place in full light. GamerL Scanline filters are mostly terrible, except some of the really subtle ones. You never actually saw those lines on CRT TVs unless you were sitting too close. Pixel art without filters is great when done right. You guys take this shit waaaaaaaay too seriously lmao. Rather than being happy Streets of Rage is back at all you choose to just whine about the artstyle, ever heard the saying "beggars can't be choosers"? I'm sure the devs behind it are passionate fans of the source material, otherwise they wouldn't be making it at all because I don't know if you realize this but for the vast majority of gamers Streets of Rage as a franchise is about as big as a fart in a hurricane, Adobe Illustrator is what they're using because that's simply what's easiest and cheapest to use within their I'm sure not very big budget (you really think they have the money to make their own engine? lmao) Just hope you guys realize how embarrassing your fanboying is coming off. Take me for example and the upcoming Bloodstained, do I wish it was maybe 2D, even pixel art 2D? Sure, but I'm glad IGA's back with a new Metroidvania at all, you have to look at these things glass half full. And scanline filters may not be perfect but they're as accurate as you can get when playing a 2D game on a non CRT television. And.... I don't care about "accuracy" so much as I care about what just looks good to my eye. |
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Post by toei on Aug 28, 2018 16:13:21 GMT -5
GamerL I've said already I'm against pointless remakes and revivals, so what's that about "beggars can't be choosers"? Series don't actually have to continue forever. Once a series' time is past, it's past. This mentality according to which everything is a franchise by default and has to continue forever is trash, and leads to trash games. Creativity and originality are things that exist. It's also ok not to like or agree with a thing. Posters in this thread act like their taste for bad cartoon art and unnecessary off-brand sequels make them morally superior.
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Post by lurker on Aug 28, 2018 16:26:51 GMT -5
Granted the footage in the trailer doesn't always look completely like the finished product.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 17:01:44 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sold on the new art style, but they've barely released any info on this thing. So long as the gameplay is tight, this should turn out pretty great.
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Post by Feynman on Aug 28, 2018 17:16:55 GMT -5
GamerL I've said already I'm against pointless remakes and revivals, so what's that about "beggars can't be choosers"? Series don't actually have to continue forever. Once a series' time is past, it's past. This mentality according to which everything is a franchise by default and has to continue forever is trash, and leads to trash games. Creativity and originality are things that exist. You aren't the one who gets to decide what's pointless or not. People have been wanting a Streets of Rage revival for a long time, and as long as that desire is there I'd say the series is still ripe for a revival. But nah, can't have some "small-time" western dev working on a Japanese IP. Otherwise we might end up with something like Sonic Mania oh wait that game ended up being one of the best games in the whole franchise. Uh... well, it might end up like Double Dragon Neon dammit that one was good too. Er, what if it turns out as poorly as that remake of Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap oops that was the best remake anyone could have hoped for. Well how about that River City Random: Underground game? How dare some western indie dev try to make a game with the Kunio-kun license? Of course such an old franchise should just be left alo- that game was also really good!?Well gee, I give up. It's almost as if western devs are entirely capable of creating a fun new take on an old Japanese franchise. If you want to reject all remakes or revivals of these older franchises for whatever reason, okay, good for you. But acting like they're all garbage and an affront to creativity by default is just nonsense. We don't know if this game is going to be good yet or not. Lizardcube's involvement inspires some confidence, DotEmu's not so much. There's no way to really judge the quality of the game until it get released... or at least until we get more solid footage. But dismissing it out of hand based on a brief reveal trailer is madness. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 17:22:25 GMT -5
Serious question: can it truly be Streets of Rage without watery-voice samples?
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Post by Ike on Aug 28, 2018 17:27:23 GMT -5
baa knoko!!
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Post by Ike on Aug 28, 2018 17:28:44 GMT -5
I have a solution for everyone: if you don't like it, just don't buy it! Don't base your opinions off of literally 12 seconds of game footage of an in-development title that was just announced a day ago!
It's so simple
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Post by GamerL on Aug 28, 2018 17:34:41 GMT -5
I have a solution for everyone: if you don't like it, just don't buy it! Don't base your opinions off of literally 12 seconds of game footage of an in-development title that was just announced a day ago! It's so simple Wow, what a concept. |
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Post by Ike on Aug 28, 2018 17:38:29 GMT -5
It's a lot to handle, 4 sure.
See what I did there, with the 4
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Post by ZenithianHero on Aug 28, 2018 17:43:23 GMT -5
I know back around the time of SoR Remake's C&D people still ask so they can legally purchase that game. After some time of a game series dormancy, fans will literally ask for any scraps they can get. Not saying the remake is bad but the series deserves a revival sequel like this. I'm hoping this turns out very well.
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Post by toei on Aug 28, 2018 18:09:04 GMT -5
I have a solution for everyone: if you don't like it, just don't buy it! Don't base your opinions off of literally 12 seconds of game footage of an in-development title that was just announced a day ago! It's so simple lol ur right I never thought about that because I'm so stupid lol pleez keep enlightening us poor idjits who think this looks bad I'll do better: I won't buy it, and still feel free to express my opinion about the direction they're taking with a series that isn't theirs. But you're right, you need at least half an hour of game footage to have any idea what a beat-'em-up will be like, because it's a very complex genre. Feynman Neon was horrible, and the RCR game a letdown as well. And you're conveniently ignoring the countless examples that turned out far worse. |
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Post by alphex on Aug 28, 2018 18:17:46 GMT -5
Lizardcube's involvement inspires some confidence, DotEmu's not so much. They did the Double Dragon Trilogy release, so they're at least familiar with the genre. Feynman Neon was horrible, and the RCR game a letdown as well. And you're conveniently ignoring the countless examples that turned out far worse. RCRU is a great game and super enjoyable, even with people who haven't played the original. I've played that one with two groups of people, and both groups had a great time. I'll be more than happy if SOR4 is on the same quality level as that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 18:20:23 GMT -5
I can relate to anyone with the "glass is half full of shit" mentality, but...I don't know. Maybe it's just a symptom of old age, but I'd rather be optimistic about this. If it turns out shitty, well at least they tried?
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Post by alphex on Aug 28, 2018 18:33:37 GMT -5
I can relate to anyone with the "glass is half full of shit" mentality, but...I don't know. Maybe it's just a symptom of old age, but I'd rather be optimistic about this. If it turns out shitty, well at least they tried? Imagine that incredibly attractive girl you had a crush on in high school calls you 24 years later and tells you she came to think about you lately and wants to hang out. Friends might say "dude, she looks super weird, barely like the same person", but you want to give her the chance just because of what she meant to you. It's Streets of Rage. There's barely a series that better epitomizes what I like about beat 'em ups and their aesthetics. Does it look 100% like I'd want it to? No. Does it look like what's off about it could still easily be fixed before release? Yes. Does anything look like a dealbreaker? Hell no. It's tough to fuck up the genre if you got the basics right, and the engine seems to check the right boxes from the 15 seconds or so we've seen. I don't expect it to best SOR Remake. That is my fav beat 'em up ever. Just give me something that adds something worthwhile to the canon - characters, gameplay, soundtrack - and don't fuck up the legacy. Also fancy merch (not that crap they have right now). I wasn't super pissed about Mighty No 9 either - I enjoyed bits of it, even if it was somewhat mediocre in the end. Just make it feel like SOR and we're halfway there. People loved the Scott Pilgrim game and that one was super repetetive. The genre isn't that hard to be fun if the fundamentals are there, and SOR presents a rock solid foundation. Just don't screw that up and it's gonna be at least worthwhile. |
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